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Tuesday, January 31, 2012
Not Worthy of Public Presentation
? The city had boil orders Friday for two water main breaks, one on the east end of May Road and another at Lida Lane, said Gary Bleck, public works director, after the meeting.
I would like to ask Mr Bleck to speak up and tell the people of Peru whats going on in his department
during the meeting so everyone attending can be made aware of these problems.
Does anyone know what they were doing on May Road today? Someone (possibly Michelini) was doing something that was causing steam or smoke to come out of manhole covers.
Did not hear comments Bleck made. Not sure why it wasn't discussed during the meeting though. What I did hear and see were aldermen mocking other officials and the public. If this group can not play together for 2 hours, how can they possibly lead our City in OUR best interest. I saw eyes rolling when someone from the public was speaking, I saw inappropriate behavior similar to a juvenile by one of the senior alderman (I actually asked if he was drunk), I heard a new alderman verbally mock another alderman. Some of the new alderman are questioning bidding processes and asking questions and I expect senior alderman to remember their first days on the council. Of course, maybe those senior alderman were told what to do and how to vote vs. standing on their own two feet and respecting the mission statement of our City to be "Fiscally Responsible!" I was extremely disappointed when I saw Radtke mock Perez when discussing minutes from an insurance presentation. If I recall Mr. Radtke, didn't you question why Martuzzo was getting paid if he didn't fulfill his duties when the "conflict of interest" came about? (Still don't have an answer what the "conflict" was now do we.) Maybe you should check your notes too. I see and hear others make comments in regards to your "about face" recently and I just have to wonder who "talked to you?" Then we have Ankewicz who tries to bypass the posting notice rules of government and ignore the law as stated by the City Attorney. Then we have Pothoff who tries to sidestep the insurance consultant issues by saying, "well we could have an attorney look things over but that would be really expensive, right Doug." I am confused why we have to have an attorney look at insurance paperwork. Any other entity do that too? I am sure Mr. Martuzzo is an experienced individual and I am not challenging his credentials. I am challenging the skill set of the city staff in place that should be able to do this exact same process, or better yet, utilize a reputable agent. I have never heard of an insurance consultant. We call them agents. They earn commissions, not consulting fees! Next year, simply select the blue cross policy and bid out the commission rates of the agents then everybody gets to play fair. Then it won't matter if the underwriters are "conveniently" blocked out before others can even provide a bid. Oh, the games we play. Totally agree with Mayszak. Post notice of any insurance meeting so alderman attend every insurance presentation. It's a $2ml line item between health and property. Kind of important amount huh? Come on folks in those chairs, don't be the laughing stock anymore. Better yet, just video tape the meetings. Let the entire public see nothing but the truth.
Alderman Perez deserves to get the eye rolls, and shaking of heads. Every week he brings up non-sense. A first year alderman should take their thoughts and run them by the senior aldermen to see if it's even worth bringing to the table for discussion. Hopefully alderman Perez reads this tip, you may then stop seeing eye rolling. As far as alderman Radke goes, he has great potential but is easily influenced by other powers at be. I see this during meetings I attend and articles I read when I miss meetings. The difference between these two freshmen aldermen is that Perez will bring up things that are not popular with the rest of the council such as fireworks, and this last insurance debate. Alderman Radke expresses his beliefs but then easily influenced by other powers at be and changes his mind. This has happened on many occasions. Next you will see alderman radke go against doing what's right for the city and work what is right by the other powers at be. Such as: competitive bidding process. I do recall Radke saying he supported bidding but we will see when it comes down to it between Test, Chamlin, Ambulance..... I go back to a meeting I was at when Baker stood up and publicly thanked Radke for a certain way he voted. These two Aldermen are the cause of the laughing stock.
9:47 Its sounds like a upset insurance agent looking for a back door or free pass. I don't think Radtke embarrassed Perez, he can do that quite easily on his own. Radtke simply asked a question. Your in the insurance profession, maybe you can change the standards of commissions or underwriting. To blame city employees or request that they file their own claims maybe a way to cut your commission levels. Good Luck with that. Yes the games we play or the methods some will utilize for that free pass. Bypass posting notices and ignoring rules, your reaching for air! Childish personal assaults won't get you the bid, hard work and effort is the key to success.
ANON 9:47 What a well written and truthful post! I too have witnessed unprofessional behavior and bickering between the aldermen. I have also thought if they can't get along with each other how can they run our city? As far as citizens speaking or commenting some of them don't like it at all and as you stated they may "roll their eyes" or "snicker". Doesn't make for a productive and comfortable atmosphere. Glad someone else sees it!
ANON 7:22 Who are the powers to be? Are they the same people you want our freshmen aldermen to look up to and follow in their foot steps? Not me. I want independent aldermen who will listen to the people, ask questions, and seek new and better ways to run our city. I want to move forward not be stagnant.
Anon 7:22 Its obvious that your post is attempting to influence decisions on the services of TEST, Chamlim, Ambulance service and your playing that trump by being critical of Ald. Radtke. Your out of touch and out of date. Time to realize that the vocal few won't control the quiet majority.
Speaking for myself, I don't think that there are any good examples to look up to on the city council for our freshman aldermen. That means they are going to have to be on their own, follow their own conscience and not be foolishly led by those with so called experience. Maybe listening to their constituents might be a good start and then working it out within themselves. All of the new aldermen are very intelligent people and other than needing some advice on protocol, they should rely upon themselves.
An alderman is suppose to do what the majority of the residents in his/her ward want him/her to do . They arent suppose to do what an insurance agent or someone that will gain from a vote want them to do . This is illegal . Just like the kick backs that city employees and officials get buy patronizing specific businesses that do work for the city . You rub my back and i'll give you free oil changes on your personal vehicles . or you rub my back and i'll let city employees wash your car in the city garage on the clock , but keep it quiet . OOps did i just let that slip ? The alderman are elected by the citizens and should do what we want . Not what will get them free gifts . Town Hall meetings are great and informal for the people to say what they want . Peru should do more and more will start to attend .
the superintendants in Peru only have their jobs because of their names or because they were the one that got away with the most and never got caught and their predicesor got too old for their position and they just were in the right spot at the right time . Bleck has no clue how to run a deoartment .
Anon 1:35 you made the comment. Now tell us what City official is having their truck washed and oil changed by City employees. And please report those names.
2 weeks ago when we had the 6 inches of snow , the plows were pulled off the street at 7pm on a friday nite . The snow stopped at 7:15 pm . Every town around Peru finished the snow by approx 10pm and only had to do minor cleanup with a few guys on OT on Saturday . This probably saved those towns thousands of dollars . Why would Peru have everyone come out on saturday to plow when it couldve been done on friday nite ? Saturday overtime is more money than regular overtime . Can't Bleck watch the weather channel and figure out a radar map . My kid can read the radar and tell when its going to rain or snow . Privately owned plow companies finished their snow friday because they pay their wages with private funds which obviously makes them smarter than the city of Peru . We need a superintendant that is out to save OUR money like it was his own . Peru used to be the First done and best town in the Valley when it can to snow plowing and salting . Within the last 5 or so year Peru's streets suck in the snow . Oh wait , that's when Bleck took over ! I guess its better to keep the workers happy with alot of OT than being fiscally responsible and saving OUR money !
1:35 Really! It sounds like the same rumor or baloney that highlights many of the lives of those making little contributions to the city. You must know more than most about the city operations. Please tell!
anonymous: 7:22 and 9:36 I just can't stop smiling :-) It's a good thing a few of us aldermen have attended the 9 week city official Boot Camp Academy.. which consists of reading blogs 6 hours a day that do nothing more than criticize us, then try to make us turn on each other. (No pun intended Lois;-)
The great thing about this council is that we can debate, and have differences of opinions without taking it as a personal attack. If a certain alderman tries to make it personal then that would be their own weakness getting the best of them. Negative expressions towards the public should not be going on, as I would agree it would be very unprofessional.
As far as "Embarrassment" goes? The only time i really recall embarrassing myself was when I was caught picking my nose back in high school not realizing the girl I crushed on was watching me as I glanced over.
As far as "embarrassing myself as a council member".. The only way I can see that happening is if I allow someone to silence me due to intimidation.( not happening )
I will continue to Lead as I do.. Leading is not a "political strategy" it is a "moral strategy" I have committed to be a pro-active leader if I was elected.
I would challenge anyone to go back to my campaign trail. You will find that everything I said I was going to do.. I'm doing, such as: *holding regular public meetings ( transparency )*work against the "Status Quo" * Bring New ideas to the council * Be open minded to new ideas,* Work for the citizens of Peru regardless of resistance from the opposition. I could go on but believe I put my point across.
I sure didn't become a councilman to win a popularity contest, I could care less If someone chooses to dis-like me because I have stuck to the pledge I made as I campaigned and took oath. Doing the Right thing is not always the popular thing with everyone..If I thought it was, then I would be "embarrassing" myself, I'm a team player and can work with anyone.
I will continue being consistent with my actions and respect for others. I treat everyone the same regardless of who they are.
I welcome anyone to contact me anytime with questions or concerns, I would be happy to have a discussion about anything that is on your mind,from Fireworks to Beer-gardens.. I'm here for ya:-)
I agree 9:08. He's an alderman you can talk to and walk away knowing he was listening and that he's not laughing at you behind your back. He makes you feel as though your concerns are important and worthy of hearing whereas others make you feel as though you don't know what you're talking about. Thank you Rodney!
These questions are directed to Rodney Perez. You say that you welcome ANY questions. There have been many questions in regards to the Peru's Fire Department on these blogs that you HAVENT answered!! Why haven't you? For instance! 1) How many firemen are Certified EMT? 2) Does Fire Chief King have any degrees in fire safety, associates,bachelors? 3) What certification does Fire Chief Jeff King have in order to have been appointed "Fire Marshall?" 4) Does asst. Fire chief Jim Duncan and Fire Chief Jeff King have a certication for a EMT? 5) What's the real reason for No Stag this Year??? These were just a few of unanswered questions from the taxpayers and we have a right to know!!! Mr. Perez, I assume you read all these blogs and you have not responded by answering the questions!!!! Only answering the ones you want. You are one of two people as alderman who are on the committee for fire safety. Is there something to hide ?? Makes us wonder! Thank You
12:57 Those are good questions but why have you directed them only at alderman Perez? Why not the other alderman (Ferrari) who is on the safety committee?
These questions could be directed to Alderman Ferrari also. I would assume that Mayor Scott Harl would or should have the answers due to the fact that he did appointments for positions! Alderman Ferrari from what I've read doesn't seem to comment very often regarding the fire department. In actuality ANY alderman should be able to answer. I agree and appreciate alderman Perez's initiative to voice his concerns in regards to issues pertaining to the city of Peru, however issues and questions regarding the fire department have been avoided . Therefore, it leaves the taxpayers to wonder. Lastly, prior bloggers that were referring to firefighters being signed in for Fire calls when they were not even at calls seemed to have been swept under the rug. These are just observations. Like a blogger once mentioned, a Peru Fire Departments website would be nice. Use to have one where pictures of the firemen were posted with their credentials, etc.... But, no more!!!!!!
I left out of my 9:54 post I wrote last evening what I have highlighted in my past posts in regards to debating or responding to anonymous comments/ questions directed at me.
Not to come across as arrogant or evasive but..I will not go back and forth with shadow's. I stated in my previous post that I'm "consistent". I would love to answer any questions or concerns anyone has..that's why I post my phone # below, If I get into answering the questions from the 12:57 anon. post, then I would have to go back through all other posts and answer questions I left UN-answered from other anons. Sorry but not enough hours in the day to do that.
My constituents that have questions call me, or go to my alderman facebook page to ask them. I will do my best to stay consistent.
I thought this was a blog topic expressing dismay in the superintendants job quality ? How come everytime someone gets too close to the truth an anonymous poster changes the topic in the middle ? G.B. are you on here changing the topic ?
There's not much that can be done about GB. No hope there. Nothing going to be changed. In my opinion, serious mismanagement, no skills, no follow up, no cost savings measures, no idea where he or his staff is at, flat out a mistake to be placed as Super for that dept. Why waste our breath anymore? As for Perez, many support him 100% based on his willingness to bring everything out in the open. He is standing on his OWN two feet and doing what a good business man should be doing. Trying to control cost and ELIMINATING bad business practices that have gone on too long. He has nothing to fear but it seems that he has made quite a few people very nervous in this town. He makes his own decisions unlike some of the other puppets on their very expensive executive thrones. I believe he is one of maybe 2 or 3 on that council that has not been bought and paid for. PVAS - why in God's name would Bakes, Ankewicz, Obernie give a rats behind about being on that board. Must be something real big in for them. That board should consist of a mix of medical professionals and financial managers. Fireworks - Waterstreet is a drunken puke fest. I appreciate that someone took an ounce of initiative to look at other places to hold the festivities. Health Insurance - $100,000 between 2 plans. Damn! I flat out think that many of the aldermen were afraid employees would not vote them in again. Never mind the 4000 plus voting taxpayers of this town. I know there had to be more to that story why people pushed so hard to keep the current plan in place. I am sick of the condescending "CEO" tone when Potts talk to the public and other aldermen. I don't think he as a right to be so arrogant. Didn't he take the beating of his life when he ran for Mayor? Wonder if he was intimidated by any of his board members? If I see Waldorf roll his eyes one more time, i'm going to take a picture and plaster in on a billboard so everyone can see just how pathetic it looks, especially for someone that is suppose to be a professional leader in our community. Does Ankewicz think these meetings are a joke? Don't forgot Bob, this meeting at the City hall; not the meeting that you and the boys frequent at the pub or local dining shop. As far as Radtke, I am becoming concerned. Lots of ties to the old boys and their families. I have to wonder if some favors are being called upon. He doesn't seem to be as neutral as I thought he would be. Simply put, take a look at the city today. Running out of money, roads & sewers falling in, boring/vacant down town, abandoned buildings,no industry, etc. Now please explain to me again how Perez or any of the newbies created this disaster?
I am sure you will have many people saying "Amen" in total agreement with you and I will be right in line with them. Thank you for taking the time to write to the blog.
Thank you anon 11:19 for your post. I too am in agreement with you but I too still do not understand the G.B. issue and why he is untouchable. Does anyone have an answer?
Thank you anon 11:19 for your post. I too am in agreement with you but I too still do not understand the G.B. issue and why he is untouchable. Does anyone have an answer?
After reading as to why questions being directed specifically to Mr. Perez, it seems he has more of an insight as to how the Peru fire department is run. Any alderman or mayor of any city should be able and WILLING to answer questions in regards to departments. Mr. Perez seems to be the ONLY alderman that responds sometimes to bloggers! We taxpayers use to be able to log onto the computer and see what the firefighter, asst. fire chief, fire chiefs certifications were. Hocas-Pocas, not anymore!!!!! Just another one of those "makes you think things."
Again, Asst.Fire Chief Jim Dumcan's comments and picture of him at a fire call in which Westclock had a hotspot Wed. a.m.. Where was Fire Chief Jeff Kimg? Vacation?? Nashville over New Years Eve 2012, than 2 weeks later (mid-Jan. 2012), another 4-5 day vacation to Las Vegas Nevada!!! ---with another fireman and his wife. I believe that the fireman that was on the Vegas vaca with chief king was quoted in the paper a couple months ago, that he thinks King is doing a great job as chief and should become a full-time fire chief!! From a city council meeting. The clicks are unbelievable. It's rumored that the Las Vegas trip that Fire Chief King went on was to be hush, hush!! Give asst. Fire Chirf Duncan a raise since he is dedicated and cares deeply about the city, and is dependable!!!! Asst. Fire Chief Jim Duncan covering AGAIN for Fire Chief Jeff King.
Does anybody remember a new tribune article peru's fire chief Jeff King mentioned that there is a possibility that the westclock fire could have hotshots and that the fire department could very well be called out again over the next few weeks?? And then reading on this blog that approximately 1 1/2-2 weeks later king is vacationing again, this time in Vegas. And it's supposedly "hushed." Now, I see, the Peru fireman that was with chief king on Vegas trip must be very good friends since the fireman commented as to Chief King being full-time. Politics at it's best. I agree with blogger about asst. FireChief Jim Duncan . But, don't forget he's very good friends with fire Chief King. What's the saying? They have each others back. Keep us taxpayers updated as to vacations , etc.., so we can decipher how fire chief jeff king was asking for $120,000 salary/benefit package , if Peru ever became a full time fire department. Vacation days might have to be about 60 days a year.
This town seems to be falling apart at the seams. It appears as though we have incompetency in our work force, serious doubts as to whether or not the truth is being told, and many unanswered questions. Someone needs to take control of the reins and start putting Peru back on the right track before we self-destruct.
Fire Chief King has a full time job which is mostly one hour if not more travel time from Peru Ive been told. Asst. Chief Duncans full time job in in the area. But, you are absolutely right in my opinion of what you posted above. Even on weekends and evenings the paper quotes the asst. Fire chief Duncan, or a Peru firefighter, or a city engineer when referring to a fire call. When I read these article and there is no reference to Fire Chief King, I assume he is elsewhere. For the last couple of years since Jeff King became fire chief it's obvious that he has been unavailable at fire calls. Peru's prior fire chief before king was ALWAYS present at fire calls and quoted in the paper! And I believe for less $$$$$ than what is paid for the position now.. Anybody feel free to correct my blog if i am wrong.
Definitely in agreement and there seems to be some sense to what blogger is blogging. It makes a taxpayer think about how operations of city department are handled.
I dont believe that the blogger who is complaining about the chief not being at westclox has any clue as to what the fire chief was doing at the very same time that call came in. Maybe the chief is suppose to sit around and just wait for the pager to go off just so he can make this blogger happy that he is at the call. Well here u go blogger who thinks chief king was gone again, I was in a city safety meeting with him when the call came in. so maybe as normal with you guttless anon bloggers you once again should get your facts before slandering the chief
What call are you referring to anon 8:11 and when was this safety meeting you attended? Your post doesn't add up. The last safety meeting was January 24th and no calls came in.
City safety meeting feb 1st which was the last call in which the blogger was refering to the chief not being at. Maybe before you answer you should check your facts as you will see who was in attendance and it was the same time as that fire call.
Anon 9:24 was the fire chief in attendance Feb 1, 2012 at the city safety meeting? If not what was the reason? How would one find out who was in attendance and would you help out by publishing in the blog who was in attendance? I am not accusing anyone of forgery but since the subject of certain parties signing the books as being at a fire for $32.00 who only came to the station and were never at the fire there has been doubt created. Also the image of the fire dept was severely wounded with the unapproved charges for being at a city parade.
I checked the minutes and agendas on the city web site and did not see anything about a health and safety mtg on Feb. 1. The PVAS meeting was 1/24 and I don't believe they have had a meeting since then but maybe Ald. Perez could let us know for sure. Will check more.
Lois, I am surprised that you dont know that the city of peru has a city safety committee which meets the first wed of every month, which was Feb 1st at 10:00 am. I was present at this meeting and know for a fact that the chief was there. As a matter of Fact HE WAS LATE BECAUSE HE WAS AT THE WESTCLOX REKINDLE GIVING ASST CHIEF DUNCAN DIRECTIONS because he had to leave for the safety meeting. I just do not understand all of you who attack him for doing his job. Your not happy when he is here and your not happy if he is not. mAKE UP YOUR MINDS OR BETTER YET GET YOUR FACTS BEFORE YOU ATTACK
Anon 8:11 What do you find wrong with this picture Anon 8:11? "you gutless anon bloggers" and than you yourself sign off as Anon. If the fire chief was at the health and safety meeting isn't it his responsibility and proper priority to excuse himself and go to the Westclox fire? Also as as fire chief should he not take firemen from the meeting and direct them to the Westclox fire? After satisfying all fire possibilities at Westclox it could have been determined to resume or reschedule the health and safety meeting. Since there has been a restructuring of the fire department why does the fire chief remain a elected position by his peer group? Should it not be a appointed position by the city administrators after being narrowed down by a committee board of review? Candidates could be internal as well as external, similar to the selection of Peru Chief of Police. It must be emphasized that if some were to get their wishes granted a position filled by the vote of a peer group would also be the administrator of our ambulance service! In as mild a winter as it has been only a snowfall in Peru could become such a major winter blizzard!
I am unable to attend morning meetings so I don't keep track of them. Work comes first as you all know. I keep up with them only through their minutes or if they have an afternoon or evening mtg. I was told the minutes for this mtg. should be available by this coming Wed. Also the people in attendance do include the Police Chief, The Fire Chief,K Reese, mike Koneczkei, Gary Bleck, Rodney Perez, Jim Potthoff with King running the committee. I do find it strange that they hold the mtg without T. Ferrari who is the other alderman on the committee. I do believe Ferrari cannot attend due to work obligations. So Perez was absent from this mtg and Ferrari doesn't come. It seems that there was no aldermanic representation at this met and never is if Perez is unable to attend. Should this be an evening eeeting? Why is it necessary for K. Reese to attend?
Anon 8:11. Very interesting point. The fire chief is a position elected by his own peers. Well I would say that is reason to dismiss the idea of the fire chief being in charge of any ambulance service in the city of Peru. The inside skinny is that those on the in want a full time fire chief at a price tag of $120,000 per year and than the police chief would be moved up to the director of public safety over the police chief and the fire chief. The city would not only get one new full time position it would get TWO NEW FULL TIME POSITIONS. If the ambulance service was moved within the fire department Peru would get at least 10 to 12 new full time positions with all benefits - retirements etc. Than you'll really see some property taxes. Vote with your pocketbook is sounding better every day.
The quote of $120,000 salary is not correct but it would be a salaried position with benefits and that may be where people are coming up with that large $120,000. But you need to remember that all the large salaried dept. heads in the city also get benefits. So if the police chief or the SPW gets their listed salary that is without benefits. Add the benefit package and that means there are a number of department heads that you could easily say make $120,000.
The "City Safety Committee" is completely separate from "council committee's". This committee is made up of department heads with Chief King being the director in City Safety. Mike K attends because he leads the weekly safety toolbox meetings within his department... Mike is one of our leaders in safety. Mike attends the meetings so he can then share the info with his co-workers. I volunteered to join this committee but can only make random meetings due to my daytime job.I feel it's important to make it when I can.
These are very productive meetings. If we hold these meetings in the evening we would have to ask all department heads, lead supervisors, HR, Dave Bartley to come in on overtime. We all know this would not be fiscally responsible.
I place these minutes on file every month along with the other reports. These are the minutes I announce city departments safety record from. (departments loss time injuries etc.)
Thanks for your helpful information, please come on whenever I post anything that is not correct. Now that you mention it, I think sometime in the past I have heard mention of this rather internal part of the city meetings that are for employees and usually not pertinent to the residents. Maybe we should remember to call your committee the Aldermanic Safety Committee to distinquish it from the other one.
2:41 PM If you had identified yourself with your post, it might have clarified what committee you were referring to. I guess now that I have seen the list of those attending, I can try to figure who you are since you one of the members.
Lois when you corrected the statement of 6:19 in reference to the quote of $120,000 salary, you were incorrect..... Nowhere is a $120,000.00 salary mentioned until your 6:30 comment. When creating a position, the salary is not the only determining factor - all fringe benefits must be included in the determination of the final expenses of the job. There could also be many other expenses as well, depending how strong an individual is wanted, his bargaining ability plus the strength of those he is bargaining with. For instance in a move the employer may end up buying the employees home on down to putting them up in living quarters for a time frame, moving fees etc. It would be interesting to know what a move from a part time position to a full time position would entail. It could include the additional coverage of a state pension and/or medical coverage etc. A complete government job package may be 50% pay 50% fringe benefits. Remember one of the few figures which has been acknowledged is that city employees have a 10% medical co-pay which is unheard of for at least the last 30 years. All are variables in determining the exact cost of a new or different employee. In Peru a fringe benefit may be a credit card or a new vehicle. In establishing a cost analysis to determine what a full time fire chief could be I would research what the full time police chief costs and what he is going to cost for his entire active and retired job history.
The only reason I brought up the salary is because so many bloggers are stating that the Fire Chief wanted $120,000. Go back and read all the posts. That is not correct and I have verified that with Jeff King, our current Fire Chief. But the extra benefits of any city job easily accrue and although I don't know what a full time benefit package might entail, I am guessing it could equal the amount being tossed about.
If there was to be a complete job description change - part time to full time a published application process would have to implemented. Interviews of applicants would follow with a selection of the best qualified. It is a certainty that with the past and present economy there is a tremendous amount of talent in the job market.
The fire chief position in Peru is appointed by the mayor . All other Officers within the fire department are to be decided upon by the police and fire commission . This is Illinois Law . However the appointed chief in Peru is allowed to appoint his own officers which is illegal . And as stated before all the officer in their current position were ones that backed King with the overthrow of Eccles . The only officer that wasnt here then is Kings current neighbor . Hmm still have the buddy buddy system in Peru only your peers dont elect you , just depends on how much you kiss one persons butt . Oh and cover for him when hes out of town so it looks like hes here . WWGD
as we have learned in the past year the Mayor and the city do not want anything to do with the fire department and thats why we are having all these problems . Same with Bleck and Potthoff , they are all let to do what they want . And i personally see it all coming to a head really soon and the city shelling out alot of money to fix it . You cant look the other way forever and not fix issues within your business . The mayor will never get reelected if he keeps ignoring problems in his town !
9:14 That is a very good point!! I wonder if Chief Jeff King and his buddy Rod Perez thought that part out or do they think Chief King is a shoe in? Since Perez is always talking about " getting the best bang for the buck " the city would be foolish not to seek outside sources.
Knowing Rodney for a long time i don't think he has any real ties to the fire department . Don't get me wrong Rod and his family are a dedicated firefighting family and Rodney is always there to volunteer for the city of Peru . He's a great firefighter . However if you remember last year Rodney was bullied like so many others that are or were on Peru Fire and /or Liberty because of poor leadership in the fire department and just plain jerks that are in charge or think they have power , that he resigned Liberty and just stayed on the fire department . That was when Liberty and its officers including Presisdent Earl and Chief King told Rodney that he couldnt drive his personal vehicle to fire calls with his campaign signs on it . This of course is illegal . And since They dont have to be on Liberty anymore to be a Peru fireman he quit Liberty . this however didnt make them happy so they tried to convince the city to fire him . Big ordeal because Liberty lost alot of power that day . I think even Earl cried to the city attorney . too bad Liberty and Hooray for you Rodney .
I personally think some of you have the wrong idea about Rodney (Rodney correct me if I'm wrong). I don't think he's searching other avenues for ambulance coverage because he wants bigger and better things for the fire chief. I believe he is doing it as a member of the "safety committee" and searching for the best protection for the citizens of Peru at a possible cost savings. Whether this avenue be with PVAS, the fire department, or some outside source it is not meant as a means to promote the fire chief. At least that's how I interpret these informative sessions and once again Rodney correct me if I'm wrong.
Leave Rodney alone , there are way bigger crooks in positions in Peru . Rodney is a straight shooter and listens to us (the citizens) !Thats why the others are so afraid of him .
The only time the officers of the department are choosen by the fire and police commission is when they are full time sworn members of the department and the city chooses to promote these as full time positions.It does not cover that paid on call members.
If the chief gets his full time position he would have to go through an application process and interview just like all other candiates that apply for the position of fire chief. The fire chief would be a full time sworn city employee just like the police chief, police officers, and fire engineers. It would have to be put in the papers that the city is hiring a full time fire chief and everyone would have to go through the police and fire board.
As far as a full-time fire chief in the city of Peru. The appointed fire chief that we now have will NEVER be a full-time city paid fire Chief. Read the Chicago Tribune and other newspapers that have ads for full-time chiefs. DEGREES In fire/safety/engineering, etc... Are Number 1 requirement. At least a bachelors(4 year degree)!!!! Jeff King DOESN'T have any DEGREES in fire Safety!!!!! Possibly, if minutes are available from the council meeting when Mayor Harl appointed King as Chief, did Fire Chief King say to council that he use to be fire chief in his small hometown in Morrison, Il? (if my memory serves me right he did). Well, the town of Morrison has a list of all if it's past fire chiefs, and guess what? Fire Chief Jeff King isn't on that list. Actually, since Jeff King has been involved with the Peru Fire Deparent there were fireman who thought he was once a chief of a Department prior to coming to Peru. Seems fishy!!! Truth??
Alderman Perez or Ferrari (fire safety/ committee), or Mayor Harl should be able to answer any and all questions regarding the peru's fire department. Rodney, your responses on occasions to questions being asked of you are appreciated, however, you do alot Of skirting of certain questions. Maybe peru's Fire Chief Jeff King should answer all the questions over the last few months!! Put the ball in his court for once!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Isn't it supposedly his department?? He uses the word. " I ". An awful lot I've noticed!!!!!!
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12:16 PM
Sorry I could not leave on the blog as worded.
not sure what you mean??
Censorship!
Mr. Bleck spends more time sitting at home than worrying about what goes on in Peru .
Does anyone know what they were doing on May Road today? Someone (possibly Michelini) was doing something that was causing steam or smoke to come out of manhole covers.
4:17 PM
I do believe you but better judgment said no but I will ask around
Did not hear comments Bleck made. Not sure why it wasn't discussed during the meeting though. What I did hear and see were aldermen mocking other officials and the public. If this group can not play together for 2 hours, how can they possibly lead our City in OUR best interest. I saw eyes rolling when someone from the public was speaking, I saw inappropriate behavior similar to a juvenile by one of the senior alderman (I actually asked if he was drunk), I heard a new alderman verbally mock another alderman. Some of the new alderman are questioning bidding processes and asking questions and I expect senior alderman to remember their first days on the council. Of course, maybe those senior alderman were told what to do and how to vote vs. standing on their own two feet and respecting the mission statement of our City to be "Fiscally Responsible!" I was extremely disappointed when I saw Radtke mock Perez when discussing minutes from an insurance presentation. If I recall Mr. Radtke, didn't you question why Martuzzo was getting paid if he didn't fulfill his duties when the "conflict of interest" came about? (Still don't have an answer what the "conflict" was now do we.) Maybe you should check your notes too. I see and hear others make comments in regards to your "about face" recently and I just have to wonder who "talked to you?" Then we have Ankewicz who tries to bypass the posting notice rules of government and ignore the law as stated by the City Attorney. Then we have Pothoff who tries to sidestep the insurance consultant issues by saying, "well we could have an attorney look things over but that would be really expensive, right Doug." I am confused why we have to have an attorney look at insurance paperwork. Any other entity do that too? I am sure Mr. Martuzzo is an experienced individual and I am not challenging his credentials. I am challenging the skill set of the city staff in place that should be able to do this exact same process, or better yet, utilize a reputable agent. I have never heard of an insurance consultant. We call them agents. They earn commissions, not consulting fees! Next year, simply select the blue cross policy and bid out the commission rates of the agents then everybody gets to play fair. Then it won't matter if the underwriters are "conveniently" blocked out before others can even provide a bid. Oh, the games we play. Totally agree with Mayszak. Post notice of any insurance meeting so alderman attend every insurance presentation. It's a $2ml line item between health and property. Kind of important amount huh? Come on folks in those chairs, don't be the laughing stock anymore. Better yet, just video tape the meetings. Let the entire public see nothing but the truth.
Alderman Perez deserves to get the eye rolls, and shaking of heads. Every week he brings up non-sense. A first year alderman should take their thoughts and run them by the senior aldermen to see if it's even worth bringing to the table for discussion. Hopefully alderman Perez reads this tip, you may then stop seeing eye rolling.
As far as alderman Radke goes, he has great potential but is easily influenced by other powers at be.
I see this during meetings I attend and articles I read when I miss meetings.
The difference between these two freshmen aldermen is that Perez will bring up things that are not popular with the rest of the council such as fireworks, and this last insurance debate. Alderman Radke expresses his beliefs but then easily influenced by other powers at be and changes his mind. This has happened on many occasions. Next you will see alderman radke go against doing what's right for the city and work what is right by the other powers at be. Such as: competitive bidding process. I do recall Radke saying he supported bidding but we will see when it comes down to it between Test, Chamlin, Ambulance.....
I go back to a meeting I was at when Baker stood up and publicly thanked Radke for a certain way he voted.
These two Aldermen are the cause of the laughing stock.
9:47 Its sounds like a upset insurance agent looking for a back door or free pass. I don't think Radtke embarrassed Perez, he can do that quite easily on his own. Radtke simply asked a question. Your in the insurance profession, maybe you can change the standards of commissions or underwriting. To blame city employees or request that they file their own claims maybe a way to cut your commission levels. Good Luck with that. Yes the games we play or the methods some will utilize for that free pass. Bypass posting notices and ignoring rules, your reaching for air! Childish personal assaults won't get you the bid, hard work and effort is the key to success.
ANON 9:47 What a well written and truthful post! I too have witnessed unprofessional behavior and bickering between the aldermen. I have also thought if they can't get along with each other how can they run our city? As far as citizens speaking or commenting some of them don't like it at all and as you stated they may "roll their eyes" or "snicker". Doesn't make for a productive and comfortable atmosphere. Glad someone else sees it!
ANON 7:22 Who are the powers to be? Are they the same people you want our freshmen aldermen to look up to and follow in their foot steps? Not me. I want independent aldermen who will listen to the people, ask questions, and seek new and better ways to run our city. I want to move forward not be stagnant.
Can you believe it! According to the news tribune twitter there's a small rekindling at Westclox.
Anon 7:22 Its obvious that your post is attempting to influence decisions on the services of TEST, Chamlim, Ambulance service and your playing that trump by being critical of Ald. Radtke. Your out of touch and out of date. Time to realize that the vocal few won't control the quiet majority.
Did we run out of Bleck material? Who was that other guy on the blog that wanted the job?
9:36 AM
BUT what if it was not an insurance agent but just an anon poster, then what would your reply be?
7:22 AM
Speaking for myself, I don't think that there are any good examples to look up to on the city council for our freshman aldermen. That means they are going to have to be on their own, follow their own conscience and not be foolishly led by those with so called experience. Maybe listening to their constituents might be a good start and then working it out within themselves. All of the new aldermen are very intelligent people and other than needing some advice on protocol, they should rely upon themselves.
An alderman is suppose to do what the majority of the residents in his/her ward want him/her to do . They arent suppose to do what an insurance agent or someone that will gain from a vote want them to do . This is illegal . Just like the kick backs that city employees and officials get buy patronizing specific businesses that do work for the city . You rub my back and i'll give you free oil changes on your personal vehicles . or you rub my back and i'll let city employees wash your car in the city garage on the clock , but keep it quiet . OOps did i just let that slip ? The alderman are elected by the citizens and should do what we want . Not what will get them free gifts . Town Hall meetings are great and informal for the people to say what they want . Peru should do more and more will start to attend .
the superintendants in Peru only have their jobs because of their names or because they were the one that got away with the most and never got caught and their predicesor got too old for their position and they just were in the right spot at the right time . Bleck has no clue how to run a deoartment .
Anon 1:35 you made the comment. Now tell us what City official is having their truck washed and oil changed by City employees. And please report those names.
2 weeks ago when we had the 6 inches of snow , the plows were pulled off the street at 7pm on a friday nite . The snow stopped at 7:15 pm . Every town around Peru finished the snow by approx 10pm and only had to do minor cleanup with a few guys on OT on Saturday . This probably saved those towns thousands of dollars . Why would Peru have everyone come out on saturday to plow when it couldve been done on friday nite ? Saturday overtime is more money than regular overtime . Can't Bleck watch the weather channel and figure out a radar map . My kid can read the radar and tell when its going to rain or snow . Privately owned plow companies finished their snow friday because they pay their wages with private funds which obviously makes them smarter than the city of Peru . We need a superintendant that is out to save OUR money like it was his own . Peru used to be the First done and best town in the Valley when it can to snow plowing and salting . Within the last 5 or so year Peru's streets suck in the snow . Oh wait , that's when Bleck took over ! I guess its better to keep the workers happy with alot of OT than being fiscally responsible and saving OUR money !
1:35 Really! It sounds like the same rumor or baloney that highlights many of the lives of those making little contributions to the city. You must know more than most about the city operations. Please tell!
I can't resist responding to these posts.
anonymous: 7:22 and 9:36 I just can't stop smiling :-) It's a good thing a few of us aldermen have attended the 9 week city official Boot Camp Academy.. which consists of reading blogs 6 hours a day that do nothing more than criticize us, then try to make us turn on each other. (No pun intended Lois;-)
The great thing about this council is that we can debate, and have differences of opinions without taking it as a personal attack. If a certain alderman tries to make it personal then that would be their own weakness getting the best of them.
Negative expressions towards the public should not be going on, as I would agree it would be very unprofessional.
As far as "Embarrassment" goes? The only time i really recall embarrassing myself was when I was caught picking my nose back in high school not realizing the girl I crushed on was watching me as I glanced over.
As far as "embarrassing myself as a council member".. The only way I can see that happening is if I allow someone to silence me due to intimidation.( not happening )
I will continue to Lead as I do.. Leading is not a "political strategy" it is a "moral strategy" I have committed to be a pro-active leader if I was elected.
I would challenge anyone to go back to my campaign trail. You will find that everything I said I was going to do.. I'm doing, such as: *holding regular public meetings ( transparency )*work against the "Status Quo" * Bring New ideas to the council * Be open minded to new ideas,* Work for the citizens of Peru regardless of resistance from the opposition. I could go on but believe I put my point across.
I sure didn't become a councilman to win a popularity contest, I could care less If someone chooses to dis-like me because I have stuck to the pledge I made as I campaigned and took oath. Doing the Right thing is not always the popular thing with everyone..If I thought it was, then I would be "embarrassing" myself, I'm a team player and can work with anyone.
I will continue being consistent with my actions and respect for others. I treat everyone the same regardless of who they are.
I welcome anyone to contact me anytime with questions or concerns, I would be happy to have a discussion about anything that is on your mind,from Fireworks to Beer-gardens.. I'm here for ya:-)
Thank you,
Rodney Perez
815-245-7566 Cell 24/7
I wish more aldermen were like Perez, With him you know where you stand. g
I agree 9:08. He's an alderman you can talk to and walk away knowing he was listening and that he's not laughing at you behind your back. He makes you feel as though your concerns are important and worthy of hearing whereas others make you feel as though you don't know what you're talking about. Thank you Rodney!
These questions are directed to Rodney Perez. You say that you welcome ANY questions. There have been many questions in regards to the Peru's Fire Department on these blogs that you HAVENT answered!! Why haven't you? For instance! 1) How many firemen are
Certified EMT? 2) Does Fire Chief King have any degrees in fire safety, associates,bachelors? 3) What certification does Fire Chief Jeff King have in order to have been appointed "Fire Marshall?" 4) Does asst. Fire chief Jim Duncan and Fire Chief Jeff King have a certication for a EMT? 5) What's the real reason for No Stag this Year??? These were just a few of unanswered questions from the taxpayers and we have a right to know!!! Mr. Perez, I assume you read all these blogs and you have not responded by answering the questions!!!! Only answering the ones you want. You are one of two people as alderman who are on the committee for fire safety. Is there something to hide ?? Makes us wonder! Thank You
12:57 Those are good questions but why have you directed them only at alderman Perez? Why not the other alderman (Ferrari) who is on the safety committee?
These questions could be directed to Alderman Ferrari also. I would assume that Mayor Scott Harl would or should have the answers due to the fact that he
did appointments for positions! Alderman
Ferrari from what I've read doesn't seem to comment
very often regarding the fire department. In actuality ANY alderman should be able to answer. I agree and
appreciate alderman Perez's initiative to voice his concerns in regards to issues pertaining to the city of Peru, however issues and questions regarding the
fire department have been avoided . Therefore, it leaves the taxpayers to wonder. Lastly, prior bloggers that were referring to firefighters being signed in for
Fire calls when they were not even at calls seemed to have been swept under the rug. These are just observations. Like a blogger once mentioned, a Peru Fire Departments website would be nice. Use to have one where pictures of the firemen were posted with their credentials, etc.... But, no more!!!!!!
Lois,
I left out of my 9:54 post I wrote last evening what I have highlighted in my past posts in regards to debating or responding to anonymous comments/ questions directed at me.
Not to come across as arrogant or evasive but..I will not go back and forth with shadow's.
I stated in my previous post that I'm "consistent". I would love to answer any questions or concerns anyone has..that's why I post my phone # below, If I get into answering the questions from the 12:57 anon. post, then I would have to go back through all other posts and answer questions I left UN-answered from other anons.
Sorry but not enough hours in the day to do that.
My constituents that have questions call me, or go to my alderman facebook page to ask them. I will do my best to stay consistent.
Thanks;-)
Rodney Perez
815-245-7566
or "Rodney Perez 2nd ward alderman" Facebook page
I thought this was a blog topic expressing dismay in the superintendants job quality ? How come everytime someone gets too close to the truth an anonymous poster changes the topic in the middle ? G.B. are you on here changing the topic ?
www.perufiredepartment.com
There's not much that can be done about GB. No hope there. Nothing going to be changed. In my opinion, serious mismanagement, no skills, no follow up, no cost savings measures, no idea where he or his staff is at, flat out a mistake to be placed as Super for that dept. Why waste our breath anymore? As for Perez, many support him 100% based on his willingness to bring everything out in the open. He is standing on his OWN two feet and doing what a good business man should be doing. Trying to control cost and ELIMINATING bad business practices that have gone on too long. He has nothing to fear but it seems that he has made quite a few people very nervous in this town. He makes his own decisions unlike some of the other puppets on their very expensive executive thrones. I believe he is one of maybe 2 or 3 on that council that has not been bought and paid for. PVAS - why in God's name would Bakes, Ankewicz, Obernie give a rats behind about being on that board. Must be something real big in for them. That board should consist of a mix of medical professionals and financial managers. Fireworks - Waterstreet is a drunken puke fest. I appreciate that someone took an ounce of initiative to look at other places to hold the festivities. Health Insurance - $100,000 between 2 plans. Damn! I flat out think that many of the aldermen were afraid employees would not vote them in again. Never mind the 4000 plus voting taxpayers of this town. I know there had to be more to that story why people pushed so hard to keep the current plan in place. I am sick of the condescending "CEO" tone when Potts talk to the public and other aldermen. I don't think he as a right to be so arrogant. Didn't he take the beating of his life when he ran for Mayor? Wonder if he was intimidated by any of his board members? If I see Waldorf roll his eyes one more time, i'm going to take a picture and plaster in on a billboard so everyone can see just how pathetic it looks, especially for someone that is suppose to be a professional leader in our community. Does Ankewicz think these meetings are a joke? Don't forgot Bob, this meeting at the City hall; not the meeting that you and the boys frequent at the pub or local dining shop. As far as Radtke, I am becoming concerned. Lots of ties to the old boys and their families. I have to wonder if some favors are being called upon. He doesn't seem to be as neutral as I thought he would be. Simply put, take a look at the city today. Running out of money, roads & sewers falling in, boring/vacant down town, abandoned buildings,no industry, etc. Now please explain to me again how Perez or any of the newbies created this disaster?
11:19 PM
I am sure you will have many people saying "Amen" in total agreement with you and I will be right in line with them. Thank you for taking the time to write to the blog.
11:19 Thank you for saying what many of us are thinking!
Thank you anon 11:19 for your post. I too am in agreement with you but I too still do not understand the G.B. issue and why he is untouchable. Does anyone have an answer?
Thank you anon 11:19 for your post. I too am in agreement with you but I too still do not understand the G.B. issue and why he is untouchable. Does anyone have an answer?
After reading as to why questions being directed specifically to Mr. Perez, it seems he has more of an insight as to how the Peru fire department is run. Any alderman or mayor of any city should be able and WILLING to answer questions in regards to departments. Mr. Perez seems to be the ONLY alderman that responds sometimes
to bloggers! We taxpayers use to be able to log onto the computer and see what the firefighter, asst. fire chief, fire chiefs certifications were. Hocas-Pocas, not anymore!!!!! Just another one of those "makes you think things."
Again, Asst.Fire Chief Jim Dumcan's comments and picture of him at a fire call in which Westclock had a hotspot Wed. a.m.. Where was Fire Chief Jeff Kimg? Vacation?? Nashville over New Years Eve 2012, than 2 weeks later (mid-Jan. 2012), another 4-5 day vacation to Las Vegas Nevada!!! ---with another fireman and his wife. I believe that the fireman that was on the Vegas vaca with chief king was quoted in the paper a couple months ago, that he thinks King is doing a great job as chief and should become a full-time fire chief!! From a city council meeting. The clicks are unbelievable. It's rumored that the Las Vegas trip that Fire Chief King went on was to be hush, hush!! Give asst. Fire Chirf Duncan a raise since he is dedicated and cares deeply about the city, and is dependable!!!! Asst. Fire Chief Jim Duncan covering
AGAIN for Fire Chief Jeff King.
Does anybody remember a new tribune article peru's
fire chief Jeff King mentioned that there is a possibility that the westclock fire could have hotshots and that the fire department could very well be called out again over the next few weeks?? And then reading on this blog that approximately 1 1/2-2 weeks later king is vacationing again, this time in Vegas. And it's supposedly "hushed." Now, I see, the Peru fireman that was with chief king on Vegas trip must be very good friends since the fireman commented as to Chief King being full-time. Politics at it's best. I agree with blogger about asst. FireChief Jim Duncan . But, don't forget he's very good friends with fire Chief King. What's the saying? They have each others back. Keep us taxpayers updated as to vacations
, etc.., so we can decipher how fire chief
jeff king was asking for $120,000 salary/benefit package , if Peru ever became a full time fire department. Vacation days might have to be about 60 days a year.
This town seems to be falling apart at the seams. It appears as though we have incompetency in our work force, serious doubts as to whether or not the truth is being told, and many unanswered questions. Someone needs to take control of the reins and start putting Peru back on the right track before we self-destruct.
Fire Chief King has a full time job which is mostly one hour if not more travel time from Peru Ive been told. Asst. Chief Duncans full time job in in the area. But, you are absolutely right in my opinion of what you posted above. Even on weekends and evenings the paper quotes the asst. Fire chief Duncan, or a Peru firefighter, or a city engineer when referring to a fire call. When I read these article and there is no reference to Fire Chief King, I assume he is elsewhere. For the last couple of years since Jeff King became fire chief it's obvious that he has been unavailable at fire calls. Peru's prior fire chief before king was ALWAYS present at fire calls and quoted in the paper! And I believe for less $$$$$ than what is paid for the position now.. Anybody feel free to correct my blog if i am wrong.
Definitely in agreement and there seems to be some sense to what blogger is blogging. It makes a taxpayer think about how operations of city department are handled.
I dont believe that the blogger who is complaining about the chief not being at westclox has any clue as to what the fire chief was doing at the very same time that call came in. Maybe the chief is suppose to sit around and just wait for the pager to go off just so he can make this blogger happy that he is at the call. Well here u go blogger who thinks chief king was gone again, I was in a city safety meeting with him when the call came in. so maybe as normal with you guttless anon bloggers you once again should get your facts before slandering the chief
What call are you referring to anon 8:11 and when was this safety meeting you attended? Your post doesn't add up. The last safety meeting was January 24th and no calls came in.
City safety meeting feb 1st which was the last call in which the blogger was refering to the chief not being at. Maybe before you answer you should check your facts as you will see who was in attendance and it was the same time as that fire call.
Anon 9:24 was the fire chief in attendance Feb 1, 2012 at the city safety meeting? If not what was the reason? How would one find out who was in attendance and would you help out by publishing in the blog who was in attendance?
I am not accusing anyone of forgery but since the subject of certain parties signing the books as being at a fire for $32.00 who only came to the station and were never at the fire there has been doubt created. Also the image of the fire dept was severely wounded with the unapproved charges for being at a city parade.
I checked the minutes and agendas on the city web site and did not see anything about a health and safety mtg on Feb. 1.
The PVAS meeting was 1/24 and I don't believe they have had a meeting since then but maybe Ald. Perez could let us know for sure.
Will check more.
Lois, I am surprised that you dont know that the city of peru has a city safety committee which meets the first wed of every month, which was Feb 1st at 10:00 am. I was present at this meeting and know for a fact that the chief was there. As a matter of Fact HE WAS LATE BECAUSE HE WAS AT THE WESTCLOX REKINDLE GIVING ASST CHIEF DUNCAN DIRECTIONS because he had to leave for the safety meeting. I just do not understand all of you who attack him for doing his job. Your not happy when he is here and your not happy if he is not. mAKE UP YOUR MINDS OR BETTER YET GET YOUR FACTS BEFORE YOU ATTACK
Anon 8:11 What do you find wrong with this picture Anon 8:11? "you gutless anon bloggers" and than you yourself sign off as Anon.
If the fire chief was at the health and safety meeting isn't it his responsibility and proper priority to excuse himself and go to the Westclox fire? Also as as fire chief should he not take firemen from the meeting and direct them to the Westclox fire? After satisfying all fire possibilities at Westclox it could have been determined to resume or reschedule the health and safety meeting.
Since there has been a restructuring of the fire department why does the fire chief remain a elected position by his peer group? Should it not be a appointed position by the city administrators after being narrowed down by a committee board of review? Candidates could be internal as well as external, similar to the selection of Peru Chief of Police.
It must be emphasized that if some were to get their wishes granted a position filled by the vote of a peer group would also be the administrator of our ambulance service! In as mild a winter as it has been only a snowfall in Peru could become such a major winter blizzard!
2:41 PM
I am unable to attend morning meetings so I don't keep track of them. Work comes first as you all know.
I keep up with them only through their minutes or if they have an afternoon or evening mtg.
I was told the minutes for this mtg. should be available by this coming Wed. Also the people in attendance do include the Police Chief, The Fire Chief,K Reese, mike Koneczkei, Gary Bleck, Rodney Perez, Jim Potthoff with King running the committee. I do find it strange that they hold the mtg without T. Ferrari who is the other alderman on the committee. I do believe Ferrari cannot attend due to work obligations.
So Perez was absent from this mtg and Ferrari doesn't come. It seems that there was no aldermanic representation at this met and never is if Perez is unable to attend.
Should this be an evening eeeting? Why is it necessary for K. Reese to attend?
Anon 8:11. Very interesting point. The fire chief is a position elected by his own peers. Well I would say that is reason to dismiss the idea of the fire chief being in charge of any ambulance service in the city of Peru.
The inside skinny is that those on the in want a full time fire chief at a price tag of $120,000 per year and than the police chief would be moved up to the director of public safety over the police chief and the fire chief. The city would not only get one new full time position it would get TWO NEW FULL TIME POSITIONS. If the ambulance service was moved within the fire department Peru would get at least 10 to 12 new full time positions with all benefits - retirements etc. Than you'll really see some property taxes. Vote with your pocketbook is sounding better every day.
6:19 PM
The quote of $120,000 salary is not correct but it would be a salaried position with benefits and that may be where people are coming up with that large $120,000.
But you need to remember that all the large salaried dept. heads in the city also get benefits. So if the police chief or the SPW gets their listed salary that is without benefits. Add the benefit package and that means there are a number of department heads that you could easily say make $120,000.
Lois,
The "City Safety Committee" is completely separate from "council committee's". This committee is made up of department heads with Chief King being the director in City Safety. Mike K attends because he leads the weekly safety toolbox meetings within his department... Mike is one of our leaders in safety.
Mike attends the meetings so he can then share the info with his co-workers.
I volunteered to join this committee but can only make random meetings due to my daytime job.I feel it's important to make it when I can.
These are very productive meetings. If we hold these meetings in the evening we would have to ask all department heads, lead supervisors, HR, Dave Bartley to come in on overtime. We all know this would not be fiscally responsible.
I place these minutes on file every month along with the other reports. These are the minutes I announce city departments safety record from. (departments loss time injuries etc.)
Hope I answered your questions.
Thank you,
Rodney Perez
Thanks for your helpful information, please come on whenever I post anything that is not correct. Now that you mention it, I think sometime in the past I have heard mention of this rather internal part of the city meetings that are for employees and usually not pertinent to the residents. Maybe we should remember to call your committee the Aldermanic Safety Committee to distinquish it from the other one.
2:41 PM
If you had identified yourself with your post, it might have clarified what committee you were referring to. I guess now that I have seen the list of those attending, I can try to figure who you are since you one of the members.
Lois when you corrected the statement of 6:19 in reference to the quote of $120,000 salary, you were incorrect..... Nowhere is a $120,000.00 salary mentioned until your 6:30 comment. When creating a position, the salary is not the only determining factor - all fringe benefits must be included in the determination of the final expenses of the job. There could also be many other expenses as well, depending how strong an individual is wanted, his bargaining ability plus the strength of those he is bargaining with. For instance in a move the employer may end up buying the employees home on down to putting them up in living quarters for a time frame, moving fees etc.
It would be interesting to know what a move from a part time position to a full time position would entail. It could include the additional coverage of a state pension and/or medical coverage etc. A complete government job package may be 50% pay 50% fringe benefits. Remember one of the few figures which has been acknowledged is that city employees have a 10% medical co-pay which is unheard of for at least the last 30 years. All are variables in determining the exact cost of a new or different employee.
In Peru a fringe benefit may be a credit card or a new vehicle.
In establishing a cost analysis to determine what a full time fire chief could be I would research what the full time police chief costs and what he is going to cost for his entire active and retired job history.
12:56 PM
The only reason I brought up the salary is because so many bloggers are stating that the Fire Chief wanted $120,000. Go back and read all the posts. That is not correct and I have verified that with Jeff King, our current Fire Chief.
But the extra benefits of any city job easily accrue and although I don't know what a full time benefit package might entail, I am guessing it could equal the amount being tossed about.
If there was to be a complete job description change - part time to full time a published application process would have to implemented. Interviews of applicants would follow with a selection of the best qualified.
It is a certainty that with the past and present economy there is a tremendous amount of talent in the job market.
The fire chief position in Peru is appointed by the mayor . All other Officers within the fire department are to be decided upon by the police and fire commission . This is Illinois Law . However the appointed chief in Peru is allowed to appoint his own officers which is illegal . And as stated before all the officer in their current position were ones that backed King with the overthrow of Eccles . The only officer that wasnt here then is Kings current neighbor . Hmm still have the buddy buddy system in Peru only your peers dont elect you , just depends on how much you kiss one persons butt . Oh and cover for him when hes out of town so it looks like hes here . WWGD
as we have learned in the past year the Mayor and the city do not want anything to do with the fire department and thats why we are having all these problems . Same with Bleck and Potthoff , they are all let to do what they want . And i personally see it all coming to a head really soon and the city shelling out alot of money to fix it . You cant look the other way forever and not fix issues within your business . The mayor will never get reelected if he keeps ignoring problems in his town !
9:14 That is a very good point!! I wonder if Chief Jeff King and his buddy Rod Perez thought that part out or do they think Chief King is a shoe in? Since Perez is always talking about " getting the best bang for the buck " the city would be foolish not to seek outside sources.
Knowing Rodney for a long time i don't think he has any real ties to the fire department . Don't get me wrong Rod and his family are a dedicated firefighting family and Rodney is always there to volunteer for the city of Peru . He's a great firefighter . However if you remember last year Rodney was bullied like so many others that are or were on Peru Fire and
/or Liberty because of poor leadership in the fire department and just plain jerks that are in charge or think they have power , that he resigned Liberty and just stayed on the fire department . That was when Liberty and its officers including Presisdent Earl and Chief King told Rodney that he couldnt drive his personal vehicle to fire calls with his campaign signs on it . This of course is illegal . And since They dont have to be on Liberty anymore to be a Peru fireman he quit Liberty . this however didnt make them happy so they tried to convince the city to fire him . Big ordeal because Liberty lost alot of power that day . I think even Earl cried to the city attorney . too bad Liberty and Hooray for you Rodney .
I personally think some of you have the wrong idea about Rodney (Rodney correct me if I'm wrong). I don't think he's searching other avenues for ambulance coverage because he wants bigger and better things for the fire chief. I believe he is doing it as a member of the "safety committee" and searching for the best protection for the citizens of Peru at a possible cost savings. Whether this avenue be with PVAS, the fire department, or some outside source it is not meant as a means to promote the fire chief. At least that's how I interpret these informative sessions and once again Rodney correct me if I'm wrong.
Leave Rodney alone , there are way bigger crooks in positions in Peru . Rodney is a straight shooter and listens to us (the citizens) !Thats why the others are so afraid of him .
The only time the officers of the department are choosen by the fire and police commission is when they are full time sworn members of the department and the city chooses to promote these as full time positions.It does not cover that paid on call members.
@9:06 you better ask an outside attorney , it covers all officers that are paid . The law does not cover volunteer departments .
If the chief gets his full time position he would have to go through an application process and interview just like all other candiates that apply for the position of fire chief. The fire chief would be a full time sworn city employee just like the police chief, police officers, and fire engineers. It would have to be put in the papers that the city is hiring a full time fire chief and everyone would have to go through the police and fire board.
anonymous 9:04 You make me LOL (laugh out loud) I needed that!! ;-)
Linda..You are right on!!
Thanks,
Rodney
As far as a full-time fire chief in the city of Peru. The appointed fire chief that we now have will
NEVER be a full-time city paid fire Chief. Read the
Chicago Tribune and other newspapers
that have ads for full-time chiefs. DEGREES
In fire/safety/engineering, etc... Are
Number 1 requirement. At least a bachelors(4 year degree)!!!! Jeff King DOESN'T have any DEGREES in fire
Safety!!!!! Possibly, if minutes are available from the council meeting when Mayor Harl appointed King as Chief, did Fire Chief King say to council that he use to be fire chief in his small hometown in Morrison, Il? (if my memory
serves me right he did). Well, the town of Morrison
has a list of all if it's past fire chiefs, and guess what? Fire Chief Jeff King isn't on that list. Actually, since Jeff King has been involved with the Peru Fire Deparent there were fireman who thought he was once a chief of a
Department prior to coming to Peru. Seems fishy!!! Truth??
Alderman Perez or Ferrari (fire safety/ committee), or Mayor Harl should be able to answer any and all questions regarding the peru's fire department. Rodney, your responses on occasions to questions being
asked of you are appreciated, however, you do alot
Of skirting of certain questions. Maybe peru's Fire Chief Jeff King should answer all the questions over the last few months!! Put the ball in his court for once!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Isn't it supposedly his department?? He uses the word. " I ". An awful lot I've noticed!!!!!!
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