“It doesn’t take a majority to win, just a tireless minority that will keep starting brush fires in the mind and hearts of their fellow men.”

Samuel Adams

Friday, July 27, 2012

Friday Open Forum

I have thought about this for awhile and I will try to keep Friday open for your thoughts even if the topic has not been written about previously.

Amy said...

La Salle Peru is on the down slope. That much is obvious. Myself and several people who have graduated within the last ten years have all discussed this and agreed that LP is running itself into the ground.
The decision to rid the school of teachers that are "tough" on their students is just the administration bowing to the demands of terrible parents raising terrible kids and getting bent out of shape when the kid gets called out.

What happened to the days when we celebrated these teachers and coaches? Their firm styles helped form us into strong human beings willing to fight for what we thought was right. They garnered our respect and were the ones we remembered long after graduation.

Now we are shoving them to the side because some parents can't stand the idea that their little angels aren't the perfect cherubs that they think they are.

LP is letting BAD PARENTS run the school. Take a look at this generations Highschool kids and take it in. Because they are the bieginning of the end.

Thank you LP... for shaming us Alumni into hating that we ever went here. 11:25 AM, July 27, 2012

26 comments:

Anonymous said...

Well Said Amy!I couldn't agree with you more! Some of my fondest memories from high school came from the hard nose teachers and coaches! I can say for sure that they helped to shape my life and make me the successful person that I am today!

Anonymous said...

I agree with you ! LP class member of 1970 .

Anonymous said...

I completely disagree. LP is taking care of some things that should have been dealt with long ago. The district is absolutely headed in the right direction and this has nothing to do with teachers who are "tough" on kids or have high expectations.

Anonymous said...

Well said AND TRUE 2:34. I assume Amy is upset about the recent coaching changes. How many professional and highly educated individuals made this decision to make the change? 6 out of 7? There must have been much more to the story for those educators to risk their entire careers and community support on this decision. LP is not being run by bad parents by any means. The school is being run by individuals that want the best teachers and coaches available for the students and the community. Trust me, that particular area of the sporting curriculum has been an embarrassment for years in my opinion based on OFFICIAL records as well as the comments of NUMEROUS students, parents, & school leaders and I'm going back 15 years. Based on the size of the school, we should have had quite a few more players on those teams. There was not enough players that would participate under one coaches violent and outrageous behavior, therefore they ended up playing freshman kids on senior teams. Pathetic, in my opinion, based on the size of the school. The bullying mentality from "it's a man's world and men have to be tough" ideals have ended. I bet there a more reasons as to why Amy isn't proud of LP. Oh, and P.S. Amy, who in today's world celebrates coaches & teachers? Shouldn't we be celebrating the achievements of the students and the athletes? Is LP only about the coaches? No wonder there are problems then. I don't believe any coach or teacher should be "tough" as you describe. A good teacher/coach, parent should guide, instruct, set rules & limitations, and nurture the individual to the best of that person's ability. Screaming and threatening is NOT good coaching/teaching. IMO, I sure hope you are not in any social fields where people rely and depend on your beliefs Amy.

Anonymous said...

School teachers hands are tied due to lawsuits. They should be able to crack a kid a good one if they are a troublemaker. To put up with what they do with some must be unbearable. In my day at LP there was a dress code--shirt tucked in--belt--dress shoes--haircuts (and I mean haircuts)--no jeans--dresses(not much above the knee)--nothing lowcut--no makeup--etc. It may today seem prudish but there wasn't the problems of today. I think the people who came from that upbringing (even though we didn't have much) were something to be proud of, and thanks to all who taught and helped me.----CLASS OF 67

Anonymous said...

Crack a kid? Absolutely not. I believe that is called assault & battery! I've had great teachers and many bad teachers in my career. The great teachers were able to draw a natural respect from many different types of students including those born with a wonderful home life and those not so fortunate. The teacher earned the students respect. It was not necessary to beat the kid to make him or her listen.

Anonymous said...

There is a certain segment of the population that believes the school is there to support a football program - not the other way around. When that mentality prevails you get situations like Penn State. People in our community have damaged property and could have hurt or killed somebody to support "their coach." With that in mind it is time to stand back and evaluate if the program is really necessary - or is it just a waste of time and money - a throwback to the past made to inflate the egos of certain families and alumni - offering nothing positive in the way of shaping a young persons life.

Anonymous said...

I agree Anon 4:09

I do not look to a teacher, coach or any other school official to raise my child in any way!!! It isn't up to them to DECIDE how my child should be raised, leave that job to me and I'll leave their jobs to them! If they think they can do a better job at rearing my child then by all means come into my home and take care of homework, dinner, teeth brushing etc. And Anon 6:16 you came from a different time and those days of "one rule and one rule only" are over! And that nonsense of "cracking a kid a good one" are you kidding me? you know how many nut jobs are out there that would do that on a daily basis if giving the ok? (Penn State anyone) I don't bully, belittle, threaten or crack my child and under no circumstances will anyone else!

Anonymous said...

4:09 pm
the people that made those choices are L P grads just like the rest of us , and maybe business people but their not any better then the students or parents who think their wrong ! their only problem is they may not get voted back next term !!!
class of 1970 member !!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

9:51
While you were getting that top notch education at LP, being beaten and threatened in the manner you deem so "old school" appropriate, you missed the part where you start sentences properly and use contractions.

I know those details are so minor when dealing with all those crazy business people. But the colleges and school auditors think things like grammar matter, so you may want to get your money back for the time you spent there- or hurl some rocks instead of threats. Education is not needed to throw rocks.

H. Tom said...

WELL EXCUSE ME MR OR MRS 12:54 ANON . SORRY I'M NOT AS SUNB NOSE AND ALMIGHTY AS YOU . CLASS OF 1970 AND I STAND BY WHAT I SAID !

Anonymous said...

Maybe 1970 was part of that sport program mentality and violence is all he or she was taught. so sad.

H, Tom said...

8:06 am anon , so sad you use anonymous ! sucks to be you !

Anonymous said...

TIME OUT! TIME OUT! TIME OUT!------THERE, NOW EVERYTHING IS OK.

Anonymous said...

afraid of the class of 1970? hmmmmm. No class if you ask me.

H. Tom said...

Like Adam Sandler said , I don't believe in beating my kids . So i make them wear a Justin Bieber shirt and Crocs to school so the other kids will do it for me !
So sad to bad !

Anonymous said...

A little bit of hard discipline helps in the end and never hurt me.

Anonymous said...

I would like to ask all of you student/child beaters what you do when you have a disagreement with a co-worker or your boss? Is your boss allowed to crack you and you think that is fine? Get out of the stone age people. It's a hands off environment now. Period. Don't believe me? Ask a lawyer.

Anonymous said...

THAT'S THE PROBLEM---TOO MANY LAWYERS AND IDIOTS LOOKING FOR QUICK $$$. THINGS WOULD BE SIMPLER WITH A FEW BLACK EYES.

Anonymous said...

Hands off age? Are you kidding me? People like you are what's wrong with this country. There's a huge difference and distinction between beating and discipline. Society as a whole needs discipline, otherwise you will have anarchy. Kids today have no respect for others. Many could benefit greatly from hard nosed discipline.

Anonymous said...

7:48 - Agree with your comment about huge difference between beating & discipline. I am responding against the original blogger that said it should be ok for a teacher to whack (hands on)a kid. I do not agree with any physical violence of any kind to get results or make a statement.

5:38 - you should be ashamed of that response. You disgust me.

As for the comment about "people like you are what's wrong with this country" is probably expected from someone like you if you think physical violence and intimidation will make this country great. Actually, it is people like me and many other parents in our social group that raised "non beaten" great, hardworking, disciplined children that have become part of a long history of family members that are contributors to the social and economic well-being of our country AND ALL WITHOUT A WHACK!!

Anonymous said...

Anon 5:38 & 7:48

Your interpretation of discipline and mine are totally different so where would THEY draw the line???? Exactly!!! Like I previously posted NO ONE AND I MEAN NO ONE will scold, discipline, whack/crack my child for their own sick values!!! KEEP YOUR VALUES OUT OF MY HOUSEHOLD!!! And no school official should be giving that right to DECIDE what he/she thinks is best for any child!!!

Anonymous said...

Good Call 1:35. It shouldn't be the teachers job to discipline. Sounds like your pretty hardcore yourself. The way you use capital letters shows that much. Maybe if you don't like the "Discipline", you should home school your kids. I don't send my kids to school so they can run rampet. I send them there so they can learn whats right and wrong and get a real education when I'm not around. You must have been a child that had a bad experiance in school. Discipline has been around in schools longer then you or I. People are doing one hell of a job raising their kids these days, just watch the news! Finally, if you think LP has teachers and coaches that are to tuff for your little baby, take a ride to the west end of Peru and hang a left at the stop lights. You know who runs that show, and its not the monks!

Anonymous said...

Anon 4:26

Off your meds much??

I could hardly decipher your comment - and I used capital letters to get my point across - I am speechless and don't care to comment on your asinine remarks!! Or should I say ASININE!!!! Or am I being too OBTUSE?

Anonymous said...

@ 2:28, No Meds needed here. Thats funny though. If my remarks are ASINNE then what are your remarks? Don't be the pot that calls the kettle black. And go get some tissue and stop your crying!

Anonymous said...

Anon 4:26

You said "take a ride to west end peru and hang a left at the stop lights"? not sure what you are talking about?