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Does Peru have any similar sources to promote a solar splash pad? Being that it has its own electrical dept. and has employed TEST since the 80's would they be inexpensive outlets to get a solar splash pad established? And to the individual who mentioned the use of horses for propane please go back into hibernation it is now 2012 and too much of the world has passed you by for you to really make a constructive comment.
4:07 Ok solar experts. The low winter sun does limit the economics of many solar installations up here for year round alternate home/business power, but I think splash pads only operate in the summer months when the available sunlight is very similar to Texas. Solar energy does not require higher ambient temperature than a normal central Il summer, only high sunshine. And I believe the blogger meant that if any city could handle the installation of the solar connection and bank storage, a city that supplied its own power might be able to handle it.
You may want to know that Houston has a extended summer in which a outdoor splash pad may be utilized. In Illinois we have June, July, August. Houston nearly year-round.
Pools and all summer activities are subject to the same limitations of a shorter summer. The fact remains that during our summer, the solar function would work. Should we not have pools because we can't use them year round?
Also checking Houston's average temps it does not seem viable year round at all, maybe three or four addtl months tops, unless 70 degrees is splash pad weather for you. Where did you get your data?
11:54 your comparing weather in Houston vs weather in Peru,IL. And making the assumption that a splash pad would be a ideal alternative for a swimming pool. Would a swing set in your backyard be a good alternative for a public park with a playground? Maybe for you and your solar panel bank buddies. Maybe you could hook up a windfarm to the splash pad and call it a cost saving choice.
The opinions I express are mine only and when I post something about a splash pad, I am only trying to get people to think about maybe what we can do together as a community. It would be a lot easier to raise somewhere between 100,000 to 200,000 as compared to 2 to 3 million dollars. Why should the children of this town have to wait until that amount of money can be generated. Sometimes a little of a good thing is a good thing and will suffice until the economy picks up and maybe money will be more readily available. A swimming pool is a wonderful thing for a community but it costs lots of money to build and to maintain. A splash could be a beginning but we will never get one if some people can only see a swimming pool in our future which will have much more cost associated with its upkeep, than a splash pad. I like to see children having fun and that is what this is about. When you can only afford to afford to buy a home for 150,000 you don't go out and buy one for 2 million. Living within your means is the term that comes to mind.
3:31 Yes I was comparing the weather in those two places. That was because some blogger, possibly you was making statements about the different climates rendering the solar splash pad unthinkable. There was no logic in that.
Summer here is when pools and splash pads are used, and during that time the solar availability is sufficient. I made no statements at all regarding a pool, or desiring a splash pad over a pool. I was pointing out the knee jerk narrow minded individuals who refuse to acknowledge solar potential . You are being somewhat of a cliche by showing your ignorance and disdain for alternate energy, lumping wind energy into the argument.
Try to stay on topic, and if your point is that only a pool will do for you, you need not try and support that by stupidly mocking any alternative ideas and claiming that solar energy only works in hot climates. Also, who are my solar panel bank buddies? Is there some union rule around here that makes solar energy or wind energy not manly enough for the hard working , diesel guzzling heavy equipment operators? Me and my imaginary solar bank buddies have no intention of trying to stop all the good old boys from buyin ner big ole trucks, wearing ner baseball caps and buying ner guns. Just wanted to point out a solar splash pad could likely work if the city wanted it. You can go back to diggin nem holes with diesel like a good God fearin American.
5:47 you must be living in the land of milk and honey. Did you forget that Peru is the land of those big heavy machines, baseball caps, big digging jobs? I thought we got rid of all you milk and honey duds for good. If you look Peru is a union town with elected union guys running this show. Don't give us this bs about diesel operators we are the backbone of this city. You thought you could get the old electric plant down without union guys? Look what happened, now you will be calling us.
Like I said, you diesel lovers have nothin to fear from us -milk and honey duds -I believe you call us. Just saying the sun is plenty high in the sky for a solar operation in summer. What exactly is a milk and honey dud anyway? I don't think the two companies had any problem taking down the power plant. They just had a problem doing it for free. The second one in particular was one of the nations best and most specialized coal plant demolition contractors. I wonder what they found on site that made the job too risky and unprofitable for them to finish? Hmmmm. Luckily the News Tribune never asks the contractors any questions, only the city officials. But they are not the only paper in the world. And I wonder what union contractor is going to charge to get that plant fully demolished AND keep all that rubble on site and secure? And what exactly is on that site? Some might be tempted to get rid of some of that nasty rubble if its causing trouble, but I am sure TEST is making sure it is all safe if it ships off site, especially since they contribute to the Mayors campaign. At least I think they do. Maybe you can check on that.
Isn't the Mayor and SPW going to keep the city work force fully employed this year to finish the demolition of the light plant? This is what everyone had been told and thought it was a great idea with winter coming on.
Let's all just keep pretending that this is just another simple industrial building demolition. No debris is contaminated and none has been taken off site. Everything is fine, nothin to see here. Positive in Peru. Rah, rah, rah.
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Sunlight in Houston may be more abundant than sunshine in Central Illinois!
Does Peru have any similar sources to promote a solar splash pad? Being that it has its own electrical dept. and has employed TEST since the 80's would they be inexpensive outlets to get a solar splash pad established?
And to the individual who mentioned the use of horses for propane please go back into hibernation it is now 2012 and too much of the world has passed you by for you to really make a constructive comment.
A solar splas pad would require SUNLIGHT. You could have 5 electrical departments and it wouldn't make more sunshine.
4:07 Ok solar experts. The low winter sun does limit the economics of many solar installations up here for year round alternate home/business power, but I think splash pads only operate in the summer months when the available sunlight is very similar to Texas. Solar energy does not require higher ambient temperature than a normal central Il summer, only high sunshine.
And I believe the blogger meant that if any city could handle the installation of the solar connection and bank storage, a city that supplied its own power might be able to handle it.
Anon 4:45 Thank you, that is exactly what I meant.
You may want to know that Houston has a extended summer in which a outdoor splash pad may be utilized. In Illinois we have June, July, August. Houston nearly year-round.
10:53 An irrelevant point.
Pools and all summer activities are subject to the same limitations of a shorter summer. The fact remains that during our summer, the solar function would work.
Should we not have pools because we can't use them year round?
Also checking Houston's average temps it does not seem viable year round at all, maybe three or four addtl months tops, unless 70 degrees is splash pad weather for you. Where did you get your data?
11:54 your comparing weather in Houston vs weather in Peru,IL. And making the assumption that a splash pad would be a ideal alternative for a swimming pool. Would a swing set in your backyard be a good alternative for a public park with a playground? Maybe for you and your solar panel bank buddies. Maybe you could hook up a windfarm to the splash pad and call it a cost saving choice.
The opinions I express are mine only and when I post something about a splash pad, I am only trying to get people to think about maybe what we can do together as a community. It would be a lot easier to raise somewhere between 100,000 to 200,000 as compared to 2 to 3 million dollars. Why should the children of this town have to wait until that amount of money can be generated. Sometimes a little of a good thing is a good thing and will suffice until the economy picks up and maybe money will be more readily available.
A swimming pool is a wonderful thing for a community but it costs lots of money to build and to maintain. A splash could be a beginning but we will never get one if some people can only see a swimming pool in our future which will have much more cost associated with its upkeep, than a splash pad.
I like to see children having fun and that is what this is about.
When you can only afford to afford to buy a home for 150,000 you don't go out and buy one for 2 million. Living within your means is the term that comes to mind.
3:31 Yes I was comparing the weather in those two places. That was because some blogger, possibly you was making statements about the different climates rendering the solar splash pad unthinkable. There was no logic in that.
Summer here is when pools and splash pads are used, and during that time the solar availability is sufficient. I made no statements at all regarding a pool, or desiring a splash pad over a pool. I was pointing out the knee jerk narrow minded individuals who refuse to acknowledge solar potential . You are being somewhat of a cliche by showing your ignorance and disdain for alternate energy, lumping wind energy into the argument.
Try to stay on topic, and if your point is that only a pool will do for you, you need not try and support that by stupidly mocking any alternative ideas and claiming that solar energy only works in hot climates. Also, who are my solar panel bank buddies? Is there some union rule around here that makes solar energy or wind energy not manly enough for the hard working , diesel guzzling heavy equipment operators? Me and my imaginary solar bank buddies have no intention of trying to stop all the good old boys from buyin ner big ole trucks, wearing ner baseball caps and buying ner guns. Just wanted to point out a solar splash pad could likely work if the city wanted it. You can go back to diggin nem holes with diesel like a good God fearin American.
5:47 you must be living in the land of milk and honey. Did you forget that Peru is the land of those big heavy machines, baseball caps, big digging jobs? I thought we got rid of all you milk and honey duds for good. If you look Peru is a union town with elected union guys running this show. Don't give us this bs about diesel operators we are the backbone of this city. You thought you could get the old electric plant down without union guys? Look what happened, now you will be calling us.
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5:47 here
Like I said, you diesel lovers have nothin to fear from us -milk and honey duds -I believe you call us. Just saying the sun is plenty high in the sky for a solar operation in summer. What exactly is a milk and honey dud anyway?
I don't think the two companies had any problem taking down the power plant. They just had a problem doing it for free. The second one in particular was one of the nations best and most specialized coal plant demolition contractors. I wonder what they found on site that made the job too risky and unprofitable for them to finish? Hmmmm. Luckily the News Tribune never asks the contractors any questions, only the city officials. But they are not the only paper in the world. And I wonder what union contractor is going to charge to get that plant fully demolished AND keep all that rubble on site and secure? And what exactly is on that site? Some might be tempted to get rid of some of that nasty rubble if its causing trouble, but I am sure TEST is making sure it is all safe if it ships off site, especially since they contribute to the Mayors campaign. At least I think they do. Maybe you can check on that.
Isn't the Mayor and SPW going to keep the city work force fully employed this year to finish the demolition of the light plant?
This is what everyone had been told and thought it was a great idea with winter coming on.
10:45
Let's all just keep pretending that this is just another simple industrial building demolition. No debris is contaminated and none has been taken off site. Everything is fine, nothin to see here. Positive in Peru. Rah, rah, rah.
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