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It seems that I am not the only one concerned about the sodium we take into our bodies.
15 comments:
Anonymous
said...
In the spirit of fairness, why not post the current EPA comments on sodium in drinking water and not this piece of propaganda Just link to the USEPA page.
This proposed standard is a bit old, not gonna ever happen and completely unrealistic. And also consider that the process that is removing the radon is considered the best available practice by EPA. While having sodium in the high range DOES occasional add 8 ounces of a low sodium food to your heart healthy diet, radon on the other hand is a KNOWN carcinogen. People who are watching their intake of sodium are also NEVER recommended to add a liter of tap water a day to their diet, which would be about 300 mg at the worst level.
In addition, their is considerable debate in CURRENT circles about the benefit of low sodium diets dor the average American. It cannot be questioned that the extremely high level of sodium( ie one angus burger 1800 mg) in our diets is a contributing factor to hypertension, but the lower levels of sodium proposed only seem to be protective in true congestive heart failure. Moderate sodium intake along with exercise seem to be the current best practice for heart health and BP.
But of course it always best to focus on something that is irrelevant when the real topic of a no bid award does not seem to do the trick. If we can only get everyone to think that TEST is poisoning us and doing a bad job, maybe we will get the city to do the right thing.
2:05 pm - I don't think TEST is poisoning our water supply. I think Peru has elected officials and department heads that have no clue what TEST does does or what TEST doesn't do. That is the problem. TEST is providing a service that should be subject to co mpetitive bidding. Most of our aldermen want to create the impression that "other" companies are incapable of providing water services. Also, our aldermen and mayor are establishing a dangerous policy of "protectionism" and "contract set-asides" that is contrary to reasonable ethical standards by any measure. When elected officials criticize and then ignore the competitive bidding process based on sentimental, personal, and protectionist reasoning they are taking the first step down a path that leads to only one place. Political corruption. You are correct that Sodium in our water supply is not the real issue. The real issue is the total lack of leadership in a city that props a private contractor up on a pedestal and then places the financial interests of that private company ahead of the financial interests of the citizens of Peru. I don't give a damn about sodium in my tap water because I don't consume it. I do give a damn about my aldermen and mayor being so totally inept and incompetent that they would so arrogantly impune the proven efficiency of proper bidding practices. What a shame and what a scam.
8:59 Well put. Then go to the city web-site and try to find the video that people are anxiously awaiting. Oh, oh another sign of lack of leadership and "protectionism". The video, once again, got contaminated with some type of virus that only happens to the meetings where controversy exists. Time to get rid of this equipment from Connecting Point. Does city hall really think people are buying their lame excuses for these meetings not being made public? Once again our tax dollars are being mismanaged.
8:59 I agree totally. I get angry when the topic drifts toward paranoia and like to bring it back from silly claims about essential minerals or requiring secondary checks on excellent analytics, or worse yet talking about how the water does not quench thirst.
You did a great job bringing the issue to the forefront. I know the blog exists for everyone to have a say, but so much garbage and crazy gets posted it takes away from the real and crucial problems in the town. There are many people who do not like what is going on, but the blog drives them away when it goes crazy with allegations.
If you happen to mean me and the sodium, I want you to know my concern and my medical background give me reason to be concerned. Are we alone with the radon issue? Why do some cities eliminate radon without increasing sodium? I only want answers.
It is impossible for anyone on a sodium restricted diet to voluntarily be adding a liter and a half of tap water daily to their diet. It makes no sense. What doctor would recommend someone on a sodium restricted diet consume that much liquid?
I would direct you to go directly to the EPA website and read their FAQ on RADON removal best available technology, and also the CURRENT review of Sodium in drinking water. Then I would recommend contacting the American Heart Association and get their information papers on sodium, water softening and fluid restriction.
As far Peru versus other cities, I would advise contacting IEPA directly using their ombudsperson for information on radon and whereat/why it is found in drinking water. You could also ask TEST directly to post or send you an explanation that the public could understand. I don't think you would get a similar insulting and patronizing response like the alder cronies gave you. Maybe I am wrong.
These would be steps to take if you want real answers. If you want to just raise leading and accusatory questions, there is no judge here to stop you. People like to read it, but I think it does more harm to your very valid causes than good. Just my opinion.
4:59 PM I found EPA information on the removal and dispersment of the radon gas in homes etc but I wanted to find different choices on how to remove the radon. Uranium to radium to radon, correct. I don't need to go to the American Heart assn. page, I have plenty of that kind of information. I have talked to a civil engineer from outside the area and will get back to him for more info.
8:50 and 3:43 very well said. The nasty stuff and paranoia on here makes it a joke and prevents any real dialogue. No solutions, no praise just criticism. It also gives people a false sense that the opinions on here are the opinions of a large number of people. Apparently not. Of course, my comment will keep this from getting posted.
ANON 3:43 A allegation cannot be a allegation and be a fact. The sodium level of 312 for Peru water is a fact before it is entered in the source to my home. Why isn't water testede at random from the residents faucet in Peru?
11;54 Because that would be insane. It is tested as necessary when it leaves the plant at specified sample points.
Perhaps you would like each sip tested before it entered your mouth? You can get free or inexpensive Water quality reports from water softener companies who are also good sources of info on sodium levels.
When I referenced allegation, I was discussing the implication and allegations that things are wrong or harmful. A given fact can be interpreted as harmful by some and meaningless by others.
In my opinion only, too many things are insinuated or alleged without factual back up, and it hurts the overall credibility of the blog. And that hurts when there are some very valid concerns and issues raised. Again, solely my opinion.
If TEST responsibility is to test the water and to treat it who is responsible for the engineering of the Peru Water Works. Somebody had to engineer this system?
15 comments:
In the spirit of fairness, why not post the current EPA comments on sodium in drinking water and not this piece of propaganda Just link to the USEPA page.
This proposed standard is a bit old, not gonna ever happen and completely unrealistic. And also consider that the process that is removing the radon is considered the best available practice by EPA. While having sodium in the high range DOES occasional add 8 ounces of a low sodium food to your heart healthy diet, radon on the other hand is a KNOWN carcinogen. People who are watching their intake of sodium are also NEVER recommended to add a liter of tap water a day to their diet, which would be about 300 mg at the worst level.
In addition, their is considerable debate in CURRENT circles about the benefit of low sodium diets dor the average American. It cannot be questioned that the extremely high level of sodium( ie one angus burger 1800 mg) in our diets is a contributing factor to hypertension, but the lower levels of sodium proposed only seem to be protective in true congestive heart failure. Moderate sodium intake along with exercise seem to be the current best practice for heart health and BP.
But of course it always best to focus on something that is irrelevant when the real topic of a no bid award does not seem to do the trick. If we can only get everyone to think that TEST is poisoning us and doing a bad job, maybe we will get the city to do the right thing.
2:05 pm - I don't think TEST is poisoning our water supply. I think Peru has elected officials and department heads that have no clue what TEST does does or what TEST doesn't do. That is the problem. TEST is providing a service that should be subject to co mpetitive bidding. Most of our aldermen want to create the impression that "other" companies are incapable of providing water services. Also, our aldermen and mayor are establishing a dangerous policy of "protectionism" and "contract set-asides" that is contrary to reasonable ethical standards by any measure. When elected officials criticize and then ignore the competitive bidding process based on sentimental, personal, and protectionist reasoning they are taking the first step down a path that leads to only one place.
Political corruption.
You are correct that Sodium in our water supply is not the real issue. The real issue is the total lack of leadership in a city that props a private contractor up on a pedestal and then places the financial interests of that private company ahead of the financial interests of the citizens of Peru.
I don't give a damn about sodium in my tap water because I don't consume it. I do give a damn about my aldermen and mayor being so totally inept and incompetent that they would so arrogantly impune the proven efficiency of proper bidding practices.
What a shame and what a scam.
8:59 Well put. Then go to the city web-site and try to find the video that people are anxiously awaiting. Oh, oh another sign of lack of leadership and "protectionism". The video, once again, got contaminated with some type of virus that only happens to the meetings where controversy exists. Time to get rid of this equipment from Connecting Point. Does city hall really think people are buying their lame excuses for these meetings not being made public? Once again our tax dollars are being mismanaged.
11:21 Yes
8:59 I agree totally. I get angry when the topic drifts toward paranoia and like to bring it back from silly claims about essential minerals or requiring secondary checks on excellent analytics, or worse yet talking about how the water does not quench thirst.
You did a great job bringing the issue to the forefront. I know the blog exists for everyone to have a say, but so much garbage and crazy gets posted it takes away from the real and crucial problems in the town. There are many people who do not like what is going on, but the blog drives them away when it goes crazy with allegations.
3:43 PM
If you happen to mean me and the sodium, I want you to know my concern and my medical background give me reason to be concerned.
Are we alone with the radon issue? Why do some cities eliminate radon without increasing sodium? I only want answers.
It is impossible for anyone on a sodium restricted diet to voluntarily be adding a liter and a half of tap water daily to their diet. It makes no sense. What doctor would recommend someone on a sodium restricted diet consume that much liquid?
I would direct you to go directly to the EPA website and read their FAQ on RADON removal best available technology, and also the CURRENT review of Sodium in drinking water. Then I would recommend contacting the American Heart Association and get their information papers on sodium, water softening and fluid restriction.
As far Peru versus other cities, I would advise contacting IEPA directly using their ombudsperson for information on radon and whereat/why it is found in drinking water. You could also ask TEST directly to post or send you an explanation that the public could understand. I don't think you would get a similar insulting and patronizing response like the alder cronies gave you. Maybe I am wrong.
These would be steps to take if you want real answers. If you want to just raise leading and accusatory questions, there is no judge here to stop you. People like to read it, but I think it does more harm to your very valid causes than good. Just my opinion.
We'll imagine that. It's one more thing our government has messed up
4:59 PM
I found EPA information on the removal and dispersment of the radon gas in homes etc but I wanted to find different choices on how to remove the radon. Uranium to radium to radon, correct. I don't need to go to the American Heart assn. page, I have plenty of that kind of information. I have talked to a civil engineer from outside the area and will get back to him for more info.
Google radon removal in water lime and go to the EPA link. Whatever you do don't ask TEST or anyone else to explain it.
8:50 and 3:43 very well said. The nasty stuff and paranoia on here makes it a joke and prevents any real dialogue. No solutions, no praise just criticism. It also gives people a false sense that the opinions on here are the opinions of a large number of people. Apparently not. Of course, my comment will keep this from getting posted.
ANON 3:43 A allegation cannot be a allegation and be a fact. The sodium level of 312 for Peru water is a fact before it is entered in the source to my home. Why isn't water testede at random from the residents faucet in Peru?
11;54 Because that would be insane. It is tested as necessary when it leaves the plant at specified sample points.
Perhaps you would like each sip tested before it entered your mouth? You can get free or inexpensive Water quality reports from water softener companies who are also good sources of info on sodium levels.
When I referenced allegation, I was discussing the implication and allegations that things are wrong or harmful. A given fact can be interpreted as harmful by some and meaningless by others.
In my opinion only, too many things are insinuated or alleged without factual back up, and it hurts the overall credibility of the blog. And that hurts when there are some very valid concerns and issues raised.
Again, solely my opinion.
If TEST responsibility is to test the water and to treat it who is responsible for the engineering of the Peru Water Works. Somebody had to engineer this system?
Who is responsible for the engineering of the Peru Water Works?
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