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Saturday, March 15, 2014
In Case This Was Not in Your Mailbox, I am Sharing Mine with You
29 comments:
Anonymous
said...
You were upset with who was paying for the NO vote ads so how much do you think the yes people are spending? This campaign is getting scary. Spending a lot of money tells me someone is planning on making a fortune in the future.
5:28 Your response shows so much .. You people in power cannot even conceive that others would be passionate about better governing... Only concerned with getting some of your graft.
After all that's why you are in it, so you assume anyone else would be too.
649...why do you assume a poster is a person in power? I just know what happens when six new people are put into a job that they know nothing about. You'll see.
Why do you assume 6 new people will be elected? Do you think in the 2015 if the aldermen have opposition that they will all lose their seats? You think they are all that vulnerable?
What I am assuming is that if the yes people have enough clout to pass the referendum, then they will have the clout to elect all new people. Is that too hard to understand?
8:05 I assume it is a person in power or related to a person in power because they know, and do not suspect, that elected officials in Peru who play ball become wealthy.
Whoever posted it assumes that the reason for a group of citizens trying to better government is to get rich. That is line with someone on the take inside.
They attack the referendum with lies, slander, and fear. Nothing of fact, no research on other cities who have done it. They try to make everyone believe that voting Yes will throw everyone out, when in all likelihood many seated will remain.
No one in the No camp has answered the question as to WHY they fear this so much? Why?
I had to laugh at the pd political ad for the no group in last nights paper - "vote no for any change to the uncomplicated way we govern Peru". LOL!!! That's the best word they could come up with "uncomplicated"?? Are they trying to suggest that "at large" is complicated? It shows the old guard way of thinking. They can't grasp a new way of doing things even when it has been proven to be successful in other towns.
off topic but, it is the end of March. Has the annual beer bust on water street been planned yet? Did they contract the fireworks yet? This year the event is on a friday night. Is there going to be enough beer? I think we should get the concert lady to sell whiskey shots like she does at her airport drinking events.
I was able to get a copy of the first draft of the No group political Ads. It makes for interesting reading, and if half of these points are true, we may want to consider this change more carefully.
"TRUE citizens of Peru
Our way of life , the fabric of space time, and all of our babies are being threatened by angry mean outsiders.
Voting No can prevent these inevitable consequences of adding two city wide aldermen.
1) Virtually all cities who have a mix of ward and at large aldermen experience a zombie apocalypse 2) all churches and children will be banned 3) Minorities will take over everything and there will be no safe area in all Peru. Except the Library. Nobody goes there. 4) only people who can read or use a phone will be able to contact the At large Aldermen, elimiatting almost all people who live here. 5) Peru will be over run by people from Oglesby. 6) Traffic will become horrible with the constant traveling all over the city to find the distant At large aldermen. 7) if you want to throw something at your alderman it will be harder, if not impossible. 8) why does anything ever have to change! It's un-American. And what do we do with the two extra chairs in the council? 9) it will make several sitting aldermen cry! Do you want to make people cry? I didn't think so 10) We don't understand it. But like all things we don't understand, it must be bad.
Vote No No No
One no is not enough. And be sure that you make everyone else vote no. Call a Code Red if you have to.
Peru, which is governed by Home Rule which is only as successful as the intelligence and street smarts and above all the honesty and transparencies of it council which in the end result taken the impossible act of over $43,000,000 revenue per year and $35,000,000 expenditures and ended up in the red with nothing to show for it. Before I would admit that reducing a city council from 8 to 6 and out of the six creating two ar large council members was mathematically too great a chore to understand I would explain that the creative financing that has been in existence for over 50 years is now sophistically been referred to in other cities as kicking the can down the toad. Also would someone explain how you earn 43 million and spend 35 million and operate out of the red. The power plant has been Peru's since 1890's and the Peru Mall came here after some other refuse it in the earl 70". When you have to go back over 100 years and nearly 50 years for progress you haven't travelled to far. Oh! I forgot we are now members of the IMEA which everyone is trying to leave not stay in for another agreed upon 28 years. Question all those signatures from the last 60 years on that one.
The first thing the new council must do is enact the council-manager form of government. This is the only way Peru can return to progress. Under this form, the power of the council is purely legislative except that it is empowered to approve all expenses and liabilities to the municipality. The manager is the administrative and executive head of the government. The manager appoints and removes all officers not required to be elected. The appointment to most boards, commissions, and other municipal agencies resides in the mayor and is subject to council confirmation.
The "no sayers" are the same group that can't figure out how send or read a cell phone text message and hold up the line at the grocery store by writing a check. In general, they are technologically illiterate. I remember attending a council meeting years ago when the cable company we now have first came to town. The alderman where flabbergasted because the channels changed around and they could not find Jeopardy which they usually watched just before the 7:30 meeting. Most Peru voters are old fogies. The last technology advance they accepted was touch tone dialing, and only then with great trepidation. Not only are they adverse to change, they actively conspire to prevent the younger generations from taking an active role in local government. Back in their heyday, this group had a saying; “Don’t trust anyone over 30.” Well, Peru voters changed that to “Don’t trust anyone under 60.”
If someone does sneak into Peru and creates residency here. No matter how long or how short a time frame. Do not give them a voice, attention and above all a vote. Home town means home town and it is best to be born at Peoples/IVCH or success is doomed. There have been a few who have migrated to Peru by way of marrying some of the ladies of the Eastern territory of Peru perhaps 40 or more years ago but they are just as troublesome human beings as they were when arriving from Indiana and Ottawa.
Maybe Peru can work on an ordinance to allow testing for pure Peruvian status? Like some kind of blood test... Or requiring a specific lineage of pure Peru blood to speak or govern?
I am amazed such a simple thing has not been thought of before. Maybe Harl could just make it a law without even voting? I mean it just makes so much sense.
I can see how we may no longer be the leader of the Valley with all these muggles running around stirring trouble.
How can an alderman possibly be in tune with issues in the 4th Ward and the 1st Ward at the same time? I mean, OMG - the geographical difference is vast. And crossing the ravine is dangerous! Peruvians in the east and west are different and deserve representation based on their differences. Think of all that gas that will be wasted as aldermen drive all the way accross town! Will the aldermen have enough time for all that travel? Will they get a travel allowance? The only hotels in town are up by the interstate! Where will they sleep?
The aldermen on this side of the ravine, meaning the east, are not capable of handling the job. Try calling them for help. Its like talking to the trees in the ravine.
Complete disclosure to campaigns. Who paid for all those signs, the mailing, for the referendum? And who paid for the news adds against the referendum?
29 comments:
You were upset with who was paying for the NO vote ads so how much do you think the yes people are spending? This campaign is getting scary. Spending a lot of money tells me someone is planning on making a fortune in the future.
Are you telling us that that is what happens in Peru? Once people get into our government they make a fortune?
5:28 Your response shows so much .. You people in power cannot even conceive that others would be passionate about better governing... Only concerned with getting some of your graft.
After all that's why you are in it, so you assume anyone else would be too.
649...why do you assume a poster is a person in power? I just know what happens when six new people are put into a job that they know nothing about. You'll see.
8:05 PM
Why do you assume 6 new people will be elected? Do you think in the 2015 if the aldermen have opposition that they will all lose their seats? You think they are all that vulnerable?
Baker and the cronies think they got this deal, seems to me Bartley is in bed with them fire them all...
Heard today that illinios election had been notified of a pac violation for no group...legal trouble in Peru...who would have known
What I am assuming is that if the yes people have enough clout to pass the referendum, then they will have the clout to elect all new people. Is that too hard to understand?
9:23 PM
Paid Pol ad is not enough is that correct?
8:05 I assume it is a person in power or related to a person in power because they know, and do not suspect, that elected officials in Peru who play ball become wealthy.
Whoever posted it assumes that the reason for a group of citizens trying to better government is to get rich. That is line with someone on the take inside.
They attack the referendum with lies, slander, and fear. Nothing of fact, no research on other cities who have done it. They try to make everyone believe that voting Yes will throw everyone out, when in all likelihood many seated will remain.
No one in the No camp has answered the question as to WHY they fear this so much? Why?
I had to laugh at the pd political ad for the no group in last nights paper - "vote no for any change to the uncomplicated way we govern Peru". LOL!!! That's the best word they could come up with "uncomplicated"?? Are they trying to suggest that "at large" is complicated? It shows the old guard way of thinking. They can't grasp a new way of doing things even when it has been proven to be successful in other towns.
I and all my family and friends are voting YES!
LOVE YOUR POST 9:22. Who can't see through phony people?
off topic but, it is the end of March. Has the annual beer bust on water street been planned yet? Did they contract the fireworks yet? This year the event is on a friday night. Is there going to be enough beer? I think we should get the concert lady to sell whiskey shots like she does at her airport drinking events.
A of DS here
I was able to get a copy of the first draft of the No group political Ads. It makes for interesting reading, and if half of these points are true, we may want to consider this change more carefully.
"TRUE citizens of Peru
Our way of life , the fabric of space time, and all of our babies are being threatened by angry mean outsiders.
Voting No can prevent these inevitable consequences of adding two city wide aldermen.
1) Virtually all cities who have a mix of ward and at large aldermen experience a zombie apocalypse
2) all churches and children will be banned
3) Minorities will take over everything and there will be no safe area in all Peru. Except the Library. Nobody goes there.
4) only people who can read or use a phone will be able to contact the At large Aldermen, elimiatting almost all people who live here.
5) Peru will be over run by people from Oglesby.
6) Traffic will become horrible with the constant traveling all over the city to find the distant At large aldermen.
7) if you want to throw something at your alderman it will be harder, if not impossible.
8) why does anything ever have to change! It's un-American. And what do we do with the two extra chairs in the council?
9) it will make several sitting aldermen cry! Do you want to make people cry? I didn't think so
10) We don't understand it. But like all things we don't understand, it must be bad.
Vote No No No
One no is not enough. And be sure that you make everyone else vote no. Call a Code Red if you have to.
Thank you and bless the Troops "
Peru, which is governed by Home Rule which is only as successful as the intelligence and street smarts and above all the honesty and transparencies of it council which in the end result taken the impossible act of over $43,000,000 revenue per year and $35,000,000 expenditures and ended up in the red with nothing to show for it. Before I would admit that reducing a city council from 8 to 6 and out of the six creating two ar large council members was mathematically too great a chore to understand I would explain that the creative financing that has been in existence for over 50 years is now sophistically been referred to in other cities as kicking the can down the toad. Also would someone explain how you earn 43 million and spend 35 million and operate out of the red. The power plant has been Peru's since 1890's and the Peru Mall came here after some other refuse it in the earl 70". When you have to go back over 100 years and nearly 50 years for progress you haven't travelled to far. Oh! I forgot we are now members of the IMEA which everyone is trying to leave not stay in for another agreed upon 28 years. Question all those signatures from the last 60 years on that one.
The first thing the new council must do is enact the council-manager form of government. This is the only way Peru can return to progress. Under this form, the power of the council is purely legislative except that it is empowered to approve all expenses and liabilities to the municipality. The manager is the administrative and executive head of the government. The manager appoints and removes all officers not required to be elected. The appointment to most boards, commissions, and other municipal agencies resides in the mayor and is subject to council confirmation.
1:57 PM
I agree.
Amazinglly put 1226
The "no sayers" are the same group that can't figure out how send or read a cell phone text message and hold up the line at the grocery store by writing a check. In general, they are technologically illiterate. I remember attending a council meeting years ago when the cable company we now have first came to town. The alderman where flabbergasted because the channels changed around and they could not find Jeopardy which they usually watched just before the 7:30 meeting. Most Peru voters are old fogies. The last technology advance they accepted was touch tone dialing, and only then with great trepidation. Not only are they adverse to change, they actively conspire to prevent the younger generations from taking an active role in local government. Back in their heyday, this group had a saying; “Don’t trust anyone over 30.” Well, Peru voters changed that to “Don’t trust anyone under 60.”
That was rude 313
Anon 3:13 You forgot something very important.
If someone does sneak into Peru and creates residency here. No matter how long or how short a time frame.
Do not give them a voice, attention and above all a vote. Home town means home town and it is best to be born at Peoples/IVCH or success is doomed.
There have been a few who have migrated to Peru by way of marrying some of the ladies of the Eastern territory of Peru perhaps 40 or more years ago but they are just as troublesome human beings as they were when arriving from Indiana and Ottawa.
Maybe Peru can work on an ordinance to allow testing for pure Peruvian status? Like some kind of blood test... Or requiring a specific lineage of pure Peru blood to speak or govern?
I am amazed such a simple thing has not been thought of before. Maybe Harl could just make it a law without even voting? I mean it just makes so much sense.
I can see how we may no longer be the leader of the Valley with all these muggles running around stirring trouble.
How can an alderman possibly be in tune with issues in the 4th Ward and the 1st Ward at the same time? I mean, OMG - the geographical difference is vast. And crossing the ravine is dangerous! Peruvians in the east and west are different and deserve representation based on their differences. Think of all that gas that will be wasted as aldermen drive all the way accross town! Will the aldermen have enough time for all that travel? Will they get a travel allowance? The only hotels in town are up by the interstate! Where will they sleep?
The aldermen on this side of the ravine, meaning the east, are not capable of handling the job. Try calling them for help. Its like talking to the trees in the ravine.
Complete disclosure to campaigns. Who paid for all those signs, the mailing, for the referendum? And who paid for the news adds against the referendum?
Not true 949
There's a bunch of slithering snakes in the ravine. Wonder where the snakes, or who the snakes will slither to next. A snake is a snake!
Coyotes also. Coyotes are scavengers, just like many in Peru government.
Looks like the No vote wins. Over half precincts in.
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