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Saturday, July 06, 2013
Missing Dog has Returned Home and Concerts for a Cause have Returned to the Discussion
So happy to hear. Makes my day but I bet not near as much as the proud owner, Snoopys' pal and above all Snoopy. Lois once again you have made the blog a multitasked medium of public service. Thank You
If a concert can be held outside of town at the airport why can't the fireworks? The city has gone to such expenses that it should be used for more than some private individuals business. The airport seems to be the most available for a family firework show. This location is far enough away from the main population of town that the noise will not scare people or animals.
It's not exactly used for "just some private businesses" as 15000 people attended. The concerts are for people to enjoy, and if lagrottos is profitable then there will be more to enjoy in the future
Whether tht concerts are for the enjoyment of a few or for many Peru residents, the city needs to gather all their expenses including double time wages for cleanup on a Sunday. Put it all together for the taxpayers to see and then show the profit they made. Put the money in a special fund for a specific use and be honest and don't just throw it into the General Fund.
9:31 your reasoning sounds like you work for the promoter. The vast majority of the financial benefit goes to a private business. No good happens when charity, fund raiser concerts are run by profit centered entities. If the concerts would drop this charity facade, and stop using "volunteers" and city services, nobody would have any issue with a concert promoter making money. These conceits began as fund raisers, but now are something quite different. If the city wants to take it over and have the promoter run them, then it could be clearly audited. But it is possible that a few people in the city make more money for themselves this way. Only possible, no proof. It is unfortunate that almost all charity endeavors seem to become corrupt. But if you look at history, unless the audits are tight, money seems to corrupt.
If 15,000 people attended the concert and Peru is to get $1.00 per ticket there should be a line account for $15,000. Peru was to get $5.00 per car and how much per bus load of people. At the average of 3 passangers per vechicle Peru should have another $25,000. These individual accounts will be looked for plus the individual expense accounts. Why doesn't the promoter of the concert provide her property by Dalzell to Peru for the fireworks?
8:48...promoter tried to use her property by Dalzell but the residents there have their heads in the sand (and maybe someplace else) and said no to her. A small town like that could make a ton of money if they would open up their minds.
So tell me 746: who is holding a gun to the volunteers heads to make them volunteer? And no one can tell me if they want the city to profit from these concerts.
Anon 8:48 The promoter bought farmland by Dalzell for the purpose of conducting her concerts at this site. She made the purchase without 1st checking with the village of Dalzell and their zoining ordinances. Upon starting to prepare the property for the concerts she was informed by officials of Dalzell that she bought farmland and that is what she had - farmland. I seriously doubt if she can have fireworks on the mentioned property. The representation of Dalzell is looking towards the future.
Anon 9:31 Are you accurate in your attendance figure of 15,000 at the concert held 7/6/13 at the Peru airport? Most claim a weak 6,000 at best would be a huge fish tale.
6000 early purchases, 300 tickets bought at the gate, 600 comp for a total of 6300 paid and 600 comps. Almost 10% of the audience was comp tickets. Those in charge bleed you pretty hard in Peru.
Word on the street was $500,000 to get Tug to Peru now some are saying the complete Tug package, stage and all is $800,000. Ticket sales are pegged at 6300 with 600 comps. Does anyone else have any ideas what the airport can be used for. I've heard from a reliable source there is not a small airport in the country which makes money. The Mayor had best not write off concert debts this year as he did last year or a much bigger issue is going to be made of it.
I continue to see people discussing these concerts who throw their snide comments about the residents of Dalzell having their heads up their ass for rejecting these dangerous and potentially fraudulent concerts a few hundred yardS a from a a developed residential sub division.
The comment is that somehow it would benefit Dalzell. There might be a few people in Dalzell that that it would help, but if you truly wish to present your case, it might be best to set up your own web site or blog to show the detailed revenue projections. And safety plans for these concerts there. There is an extremely detailed analysis of the reasons why it is not a good idea, and I have had the opportunity to read it. If you want that presented with additional detailed questions about the concerts, it might be beneficial to set up a web site for everyone to visit detailing why Dalzell should not have these concerts.
Or people like you could shut up and keep letting Peru put itself on the Map and make these tens of thousands of dollars off the concerts, or move them next to residences at Baker Lake.
No one is holding a gun to anyones head. They may be taking advantage of local good hearted people who are used to draw downs, benefits, and fundraisers around the area.
They see some computers ship to a school and think all the profits from a concert went to charity.
Other companies have to be very careful about raising money for charity and using it to advertise and create goodwill. But pizza joints are immune.
Wow, someone must have a good accountant. Think of all the advertisements in paper where concert were being promoted along with Monday pizza specials. Are these advertisements a write-off on taxes for business? What a business strategy. Ring Ring IRS. CHARITY ORGANIZATION ARE SUPPOSE TO BE NON-PROFIT. PERIOD! In all the years of concerts I have never heard any forthcoming real revenue from the horses mouth of what the business who promotes these concerts makes. Is this a red flag? Are Peru city officials asleep or what? Did the city of Peru put a street off plank road to airport to help with traffic? Cost? Who cares to answer. If any volunteers were comped tickets then they aren't true volunteers.
Peru has always been a nice city to live in. However, it has become a city of deceitfulness to it's taxpayers on many levels. I won't elaborate on this, as issues have been disclosed many times and put under the rug. I find this to be a disgrace. You can be proud of yourself city officials and to all others involved. Weren't any of you taught the ten commandments?
The best of the best accountants don't always beat a IRS audit. Why do some accountants bail out when the IRS gets involved. The accountant will say when questioned by the IRS, "that information was given by my client.". Karma, what a wonderful thing. I've personally heard stories of this happening. Honestly is the best policy. Just sayin'
21 comments:
Snoopy is back home.
So happy to hear. Makes my day but I bet not near as much as the proud owner, Snoopys' pal and above all Snoopy.
Lois once again you have made the blog a multitasked medium of public service.
Thank You
If a concert can be held outside of town at the airport why can't the fireworks? The city has gone to such expenses that it should be used for more than some private individuals business. The airport seems to be the most available for a family firework show.
This location is far enough away from the main population of town that the noise will not scare people or animals.
It's not exactly used for "just some private businesses" as 15000 people attended. The concerts are for people to enjoy, and if lagrottos is profitable then there will be more to enjoy in the future
9:31 PM
Whether tht concerts are for the enjoyment of a few or for many Peru residents, the city needs to gather all their expenses including double time wages for cleanup on a Sunday. Put it all together for the taxpayers to see and then show the profit they made. Put the money in a special fund for a specific use and be honest and don't just throw it into the General Fund.
lois are you interested in the city making a profit off of these concerts??
9:31 your reasoning sounds like you work for the promoter.
The vast majority of the financial benefit goes to a private business. No good happens when charity, fund raiser concerts are run by profit centered entities.
If the concerts would drop this charity facade, and stop using "volunteers" and city services, nobody would have any issue with a concert promoter making money.
These conceits began as fund raisers, but now are something quite different. If the city wants to take it over and have the promoter run them, then it could be clearly audited.
But it is possible that a few people in the city make more money for themselves this way. Only possible, no proof. It is unfortunate that almost all charity endeavors seem to become corrupt. But if you look at history, unless the audits are tight, money seems to corrupt.
If 15,000 people attended the concert and Peru is to get $1.00 per ticket there should be a line account for $15,000. Peru was to get $5.00 per car and how much per bus load of people. At the average of 3 passangers per vechicle Peru should have another $25,000. These individual accounts will be looked for plus the individual expense accounts.
Why doesn't the promoter of the concert provide her property by Dalzell to Peru for the fireworks?
8:48...promoter tried to use her property by Dalzell but the residents there have their heads in the sand (and maybe someplace else) and said no to her. A small town like that could make a ton of money if they would open up their minds.
So tell me 746: who is holding a gun to the volunteers heads to make them volunteer? And no one can tell me if they want the city to profit from these concerts.
Anon 8:48 The promoter bought farmland by Dalzell for the purpose of conducting her concerts at this site.
She made the purchase without 1st checking with the village of Dalzell and their zoining ordinances. Upon starting to prepare the property for the concerts she was informed by officials of Dalzell that she bought farmland and that is what she had - farmland. I seriously doubt if she can have fireworks on the mentioned property. The representation of Dalzell is looking towards the future.
Anon 9:31 Are you accurate in your attendance figure of 15,000 at the concert held 7/6/13 at the Peru airport? Most claim a weak 6,000 at best would be a huge fish tale.
6000 early purchases, 300 tickets bought at the gate, 600 comp for a total of 6300 paid and 600 comps. Almost 10% of the audience was comp tickets. Those in charge bleed you pretty hard in Peru.
Word on the street was $500,000 to get Tug to Peru now some are saying the complete Tug package, stage and all is $800,000. Ticket sales are pegged at 6300 with 600 comps. Does anyone else have any ideas what the airport can be used for. I've heard from a reliable source there is not a small airport in the country which makes money. The Mayor had best not write off concert debts this year as he did last year or a much bigger issue is going to be made of it.
11:11 AM
I continue to see people discussing these concerts who throw their snide comments about the residents of Dalzell having their heads up their ass for rejecting these dangerous and potentially fraudulent concerts a few hundred yardS a from a a developed residential sub division.
The comment is that somehow it would benefit Dalzell. There might be a few people in Dalzell that that it would help, but if you truly wish to present your case, it might be best to set up your own web site or blog to show the detailed revenue projections. And safety plans for these concerts there. There is an extremely detailed analysis of the reasons why it is not a good idea, and I have had the opportunity to read it. If you want that presented with additional detailed questions about the concerts, it might be beneficial to set up a web site for everyone to visit detailing why Dalzell should not have these concerts.
Or people like you could shut up and keep letting Peru put itself on the Map and make these tens of thousands of dollars off the concerts, or move them next to residences at Baker Lake.
4:15
9000 tickets sold for the Kid.
6300 for Tug
I guess the charity auditors only count in round numbers.
Cash and round numbers. The true sign of integrity in raising money for charity
11:53
No one is holding a gun to anyones head. They may be taking advantage of local good hearted people who are used to draw downs, benefits, and fundraisers around the area.
They see some computers ship to a school and think all the profits from a concert went to charity.
Other companies have to be very careful about raising money for charity and using it to advertise and create goodwill. But pizza joints are immune.
I think the IRS should run the ticket sales and keep hours on the help.
Wow, someone must have a good accountant. Think of all the advertisements in paper where concert were being promoted along with Monday pizza specials. Are these advertisements a write-off on taxes for business? What a business strategy. Ring Ring IRS. CHARITY ORGANIZATION ARE SUPPOSE TO BE NON-PROFIT. PERIOD! In all the years of concerts I have never heard any forthcoming real revenue from the horses mouth of what the business who promotes these concerts makes. Is this a red flag? Are Peru city officials asleep or what? Did the city of Peru put a street off plank road to airport to help with traffic? Cost? Who cares to answer. If any volunteers were comped tickets then they aren't true volunteers.
Peru has always been a nice city to live in. However, it has become a city of deceitfulness to it's taxpayers on many levels. I won't elaborate on this, as issues have been disclosed many times and put under the rug. I find this to be a disgrace. You can be proud of yourself city officials and to all others involved. Weren't any of you taught the ten commandments?
The best of the best accountants don't always beat a IRS audit. Why do some accountants bail out when the IRS gets involved. The accountant will say when questioned by the IRS, "that information was given by my client.". Karma, what a wonderful thing. I've personally heard stories of this happening. Honestly is the best policy. Just sayin'
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