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Thursday, October 17, 2013

Peru Elementary Board Talking About A New School « AM1220 WLPO News

Peru Elementary Board Talking About A New School « AM1220 WLPO News

I ask "What did Ottawa do with Lincoln School, that is older than Washington?"
"What is St Bede going to do about bringing their school up to code?"

What has the building of our city hall done to make this a better place?

When is this city going to learn to no keep tearing the heart of this city?




75 comments:

Anonymous said...

OMG, you still have that big frog in your throat over the new city hall. It's here, it looks great, so get over it.

Anonymous said...

You can't be serious in comparing the school district with the city hall. Did you read the NT article today? You would rather have the district blow this money on an old building when they can do this right and maybe even go to two schools instead of three? I'm all for nostalgia but common sense is common sense. The school district is not the city. Oh and comparing other places that have crappy old buildings that are money pits like St. Bede to Peru. There is no better validation with where the school board is headed. I'll take where it sounds like our district is headed thank you very much.

Anonymous said...

From what I know it seems the school district is very well run and I think we would have a lot less issues if all of our governments operated the diostrict does. I dont think it is the job of schools or cities for that matter to preserve old buildings because we went to school there. I think we should think about the future and not live in the last espcially when it is better for our taxes.

Anonymous said...

2:18 With that spelling we all hope you did not attend Peru Public Schools!

Anonymous said...

Ottawa got rid of the flood riden grade school. St.Bede is a private school and is fundraising for a new school. City Hall is very nice. Should Peru be stuck in the past like you continue to reference. New schools and quality education is what drives people to the town.

Anonymous said...

By reading the News reports, I find it funny that the recommendations of the professional hired by the school district lists the Washington School at 5.5 for repairs and 2.1 for upgrades. The other school Northview lists 1.4 million for repairs and 2 million for upgrades. That adds up to 11 million dollars. The State of Illinois, who is broke, is sending a check for 11 million dollars for the Parkside School. What a great coincidence for the residents of Peru----a check for the exact dollar figure for all the repairs. And why repair when you can get a new school for 8 million and use another 3 million for upgrades.

Anonymous said...

They should pay off the bond and remove the sales tax. Use Washington School as long as they can without doing anything that is not critical.
The school board is seeing this as "free money" instead of a refund of money already spent. I also suspect that they sold the Parkview project with the possibility of getting money from the state.
Pay the bond!

Anonymous said...

4:01 normally I am a good speller, but typing with my thumbs on my phone is not the best way to do this! :)

Anonymous said...

5:28 clearly you are not from Peru. Your suggestion would be the easy way to go but it would cost PROPERTY tax payers the most in the long run. NO way. The school board is spot on and they have done everything they said they would do with Parkside and have followed throgh.

We also know where you spend your time. Parkview is a bar. Parkside is a school.

H. Tom said...

What i want too know is we just built a new school WHY in the hell didn't we build it big enough so we don't have to go through this again ?? as far as the king tuts building i think its really outa place on fourth street and a waste of tax payer money ! amen .

Anonymous said...

L-P should build a new high school instead of throwing away money on what they have now. Hall spent millions on the old school and ended up going new. Mendota did it right with a new school. Great environment = Great students. Wake up and look to the future. Spending money on the old only makes the new one more expensive.

Anonymous said...

Peru Washington is such a beautiful building. I'm in awe every time I see it. Let's keep some history. GEORGEOUS structure.

Anonymous said...

6:05 because it is a middle school for middle school students. There wasn't funding for something that big. This is a completely separate issue but I am sure you know all of the issues and have all of the answers with your "what the hell" insight.

The district built a wonderful school with NO property tax and may be able to do it again with NO property tax. As I read this since it was done that way is why these funds are available. I suggest you talk to Mr.Cross or the school board because I am pretty sure thehy know exactly "what the hell" they are talking about.

Anonymous said...

6:53 so you are saying we should put your awe of a building in front of the education of students. Or that we should preserve a relic from the past in front of a future for our students. So what you can drive by and look at it?

I agree that Washington is beautiful but I don't think that has anything to do with the costs of upgrading an old building. That is definitely not how i want my tax dollars spent. I also think Parkside is beautiful and I believe our schools in Peru are the one thing that makes our community stand out. I say we move forward rather than backward.

Peru Town Forum said...

8:24 PM
I remember at least 2 referendums for the school that were voted down by the residents of Peru.
The last referendum went down at a very low turnout election midway between presidential elections and it passed I believe by a small number of votes. There was some very clever maneuvering.

Anonymous said...

Lois you are incorrect. The referendum to build Parkside wasn't even close. The school had public forums which I attended and it was a community based effort. It failed before but that was different from the last time when it passed. Check your facts.

And please stop with "clever maneuvering" because you think it was a low turnout election. The school referendem was on the front page of the paper so much I got tired of reading about it. We also got a survey in our electric bills from the school. Say what you want but they did an excellent job.

Peru Town Forum said...

8:35 PM

The building does not make the student and currently some of our best and brightest in this country come from home schooling.
I have always said and will continue to that you could put an excellent teacher and a willing student and put them in a one room classroom and the education would be some of the best.
There are parents that bring their children into Peru Catholic and La Salle Catholic from out of district for the education and St. Bede in their old run down bldg is another example.
I know that I will be run down for my beliefs that it is not the building it is the teachers.

Anonymous said...

LOis this is 8:35 and I agree with you about teachers and staff making the difference. I was not saying that the building makes the education but you cannot tell me it doesn't matter. It does matter and it is why some private school parents return to public school when their kids get to junior high age so they can go to Parkside.

I believe there are many reasons why Peru Public Schools are excellent and I am biased because I know how much my children have benefited from the district. This is just one more step in the right direction.

Anonymous said...

We do not need a new building. Use the money to pay the debt!

Anonymous said...

Lois, I agree with much of what you say about issues here but over simplifying education issues insults modern teachers, administrators, and students.

Children are being taught things that never even existed in our day and schools are being asked to teach core standards at earlier ages and with fewer inflation adjusted dollars per student than at any time during the 40 s, 50 s, or 60s. Class sizes are peaking, and demands are soaring.
And class room conditions have been proven over and over to directly correlate to performance.

It is so easy to say all we need is a good teacher. But they are being asked to be miracle workers. Your statement that a willing student makes the difference is so very very true. But teachers and administrators cannot control the input (students), but they are charged with the output (scores on standardized test). So we work on controlling the things we can, environment, class size,curriculum and teacher training- all while trying to hold down costs in an underfunded system with an outdated method of funding schools.

If you design a system in business that requires a superhuman to run it successfully, the engineers look at it as a design failure. An average teacher should be able to go to work, do their job, and get students with excellent test scores and skills to learn independently.
Don't jam 1 through 8 grade in a box and find the teacher of the year to prove a stubborn point, and for Gods sake don't point to home schooling, a symptom falling deeper into our tribal mentalities.

Find real, practical solution s for the majority. People at either end of the educational spectrum just waste everyones time.

Peru Town Forum said...

I have never criticized teachers, that is one of the hardest jobs one can enter into. Can be rewarding but also your have to be totally committed as none are paid for the hours put into the position. After student teaching, I knew that I did not have the desire to spend so much of my life doing what was expected of teachers. My hat off to all who do the job and do it well. One never forgets the teachers who make a lasting impression upon us.

Anonymous said...

9:13 you just don't get it. The district is going to have to address the needs of the buildings. If they use this grant to pay the debt then our taxes get raised to correct the problems later. They csn set the district up for the future with no tax increase AGAIN.

I am actually amazed at this superintendent and school board and where this district has gone over the last several years. Most are sliding backward and Peru is moving forward.

Let's not be neanderthals and call it good when it is good. Speaking for many, WELL DONE!

Anonymous said...

The school board has already decided what they will do. Jump on the band wagon folks, resistance is futile. They will borrow another ten or fifteen million and build a brand spanking new school. Squeeze the taxpayer for every penny – that will be their motto. You can already see the writing on the wall with a few of the comments above. “Don’t jam first through eighth grades in a box…” Next comes the sales tax referendum. You know they are going to get that passed one way or another – they just keep putting it on the ballot. Anyway, the battle cry will be “It’s for the Children.” When you hear them say that – run as fast as you can in the other direction… The school board has already decided. The next few months will be nothing but salesmanship while they try to convince us that we must give them more money. And then, after the funding decision is made and our property taxes or sales taxes are increased what will happen…. Yes, you guessed it folks. The high school board is going to drop the other shoe. Yes, the LP board has already determined that they too must have a brand new school – after all, “it’s for the children!” and “how can anyone be opposed to educating children?” Get ready folks – the ride is going to be fun, but we will all be in the poor house at the end of it. How high can sales tax go? We will find out, and we will find out what happens when people decide it costs less to avoid the tax by ordering on-line. Or maybe some enterprising person will sponsor bus trips for people to shop out of the area. How high can property taxes go? We will find out.

Anonymous said...

Why did we name a school after a bar? I think it is funny when people call the new Peru school Parkview.
Come to think of it... why did they close the park as soon as the school was opened? If the brainiacs knew they park was going to be shut down, they should have picked a different name. Maybe they could have called it the Sam Walton School since that is the only local career option our kids have today.

Anonymous said...

Question: How do you lower the average IQ of the people in a classroom?

Answer: Use it for a School Board meeting.

Anonymous said...

I always wondered why/where the extra sales tax money was used AFTER the school bond was paid? If I recall properly it is at least an extra $100,000.00/per month collected with the understanding it will be utilized for Parkside. Regardless of ordinance can the City utilize these additional monies on any project?

Since the funds are collected through sales tax on the basis of school funding per referendum why does the City keep the extra funds each month? Where is this money allocated within the City?

Anonymous said...

5:23 you are clearly incapable of comprehending facts. There is no referendum mentioned by the Peru school board. No sales pitch. The district received a grant and wants to use the funds to take care of problems that would normally be on your property tax bill. I voted for the school with many others and they have not raised property taxes to pay for the school just as they said they would not. The voters had a choice. They did a great job.

But no let's make fun of people who actually DO NOT get paid for their public service and have to also pay the tax of any decision they make. You put in your stupid school board comment and you will never have the class or decency to show your face to one of these people and ask them a question or share a concern. Just hide in darkness and show you are the best and brightest of our community with your completely factless and ignorant comments.

And since when has LP said they are going to build a new school? What fact are you basing that on? Is it in the news? I'm waiting. Facts please. Oh and the Peru school board is going for another sales tax increase. Really. Where does it say that?

Anonymous said...

8:25 I dont know the exact numbers but I do recall the school district gets the money from the city to pay the bonds each year. The school district cannot use the funds for anything else and any extra is kept by the city but I know the sales tax covers the bonds and that is why we are not paying for it in proeprty taxes.

Anonymous said...

8:25You are correct the city raised the sales tax rate 1/2% to finance the repayment of the bonds for Parkside. The city does get more revenue that the bond repayment and I am sure the city puts the additional revenue into the general fund. This was a win for the city, taxpayers, and the school.

Anonymous said...

Hypothetical. Let's say you had a car that was originally worth $10,000, was 7 years old, had 130,000 miles on it and needed $7,500 in repairs. Someone came along and gave you $10,000 with the catch that you had to spend it on a car.

Would you spend $7,500 on the old car and hope that it lasted a couple more years and that you wouldn't have to spend more? Or would you spend it on a new car knowing that for a long time, you would have a new, safe car that was not going to cost any money, and would still be worth more on the end? We all know what we would do because it is an economic no-brainer.

Hall High School spent millions and millions about 10 or 12 years ago. Look where it got them. Now they are knocking it all down to spend $32 MILLION on a school that is half the size of the Peru Public Schools system.

Any questions for those of you who can't do math?

Anonymous said...

The sales tax is supposed to go away when the bond is paid off. That was the deal. The reimbursement from the state was also a hope at the time and it was said that any money would be used to pay the bonds early.
Move forward a few years and they see this as a windfall. They have no incentive to pay the bond because everything was loosy goosey. It is in the nature of a taxing body to spend everything they have - so yes, I see a new school on the horizon and I see them boding out about ten million or so and combining that with the "free money" they just got from the taxpayers. Yes... this reimbursement from the state is taxpayer money. They will spend the 11 million - they will ask for more - they continue to repeat the process until there is no more. Why is it that every consultant hired by a school board recommends the same thing? Because they tell the consultants what they want! I bet we could find a consultant that will say Washington School has another fifty years left with only minor upgrades. All you have to do is pay them and they will say anything you want them to. Enough is enough! Pay the bond and hold them to the existing tax base!

Anonymous said...

LP Will be building a new school. Here is what is written in the LPHS Strategic Plan:

Goal: Provide state-of-the-art facilities that promote Cavalier pride and support academic, artistic, vocational, and athletic excellence for the LPHS community.

Priority Actions for 2012-2013develop a preliminary cost analysis to deter-mine if additions/renovations at the existing campus or building a new campus would be more cost effective to create state-of-the-art facilities for the stakeholders of the district. Investigate potential energy savings and the possibility of installing air conditioning.

This is worded very carefully. They will determine that it is more cost effective to build a new school. Why do you think they pushed for the luxury sports complex on the north side?? It does not take a genius to figure this out. The question is who will get to the well first. Peru Grade School or LP High School. Or maybe we will be suckered into building two schools. Oh yah, the days of low taxes in Peru are gone for good.

Anonymous said...

A windfall for who 10:24? You like high taxes, don't you? THEY ARE TRYING TO FIX THE PROBLEMS WITHOUT A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE. They did it once with the sales tax and are doing it again with the grant. What more can you ask for? Where does it say they are asking for additional funding? And the consultant is the district's architect.

If they pay off part of the bond then we still are going to have to pay for these buildings. In any other case it is on your property tax bill.

We could have two new schools with no property tax increase. Give them a chance to explain it to you or just ask questions. And leave LP out of this discussion and jump on their crap when they announce they are doing something.

By the way, great comment 10:16. You hit the nail on the head. Maybe it will help people like 10:24 understand that putting off building costs does not make the costs go down.

Unbelievable how people cannot see this clearly!

Peru Town Forum said...

Tell me I'm wrong, but I am finding comments by pro school board members offensive and attempting to demean bloggers who are not in total agreement with them. This is not the way to win an disagreement with anyone especially people who are in a position to offer you nothing. True the school board has total control and since no referendum is involved, residents will have nothing to say about what is done with Peru schools.I have experienced so much of this behavior not only from the city council but also from the rec board and it does not create a positive community environment. By the way it is not only me. The general feeling of my way or the highway does not create community.

Anonymous said...

Lois, read your heading of this item. The suggestion is that we don't need to knock down this landmark. Many have other ideas like new school, best future option. So yes they are giving you other pro-new points of view.

Peru Town Forum said...

12:30 PM
That is a link heading from WLPO, not my wording.

Anonymous said...

I think part of the problem is people read a two or three paragraph news blurb like this and try to extrapolate all kinds of details and the situation is always way more complicated than a news article. You can see that from how they cover city council meetings partly because there is only so much space to explain things. Like most things there is a lot of misinformation on here as people are talking about a new sales tax and everything else under the sun. This is why I like to ask questions and go to the source.

Anonymous said...

A blog typically takes one item at a city meeting and makes interpretations based on their viewpoints, that is the fun thing about a blog. You don't have to be truthful. A newspaper, radio article has a source or discusses the topic with a source. Sometimes they use quotes, follow-ups. A blog will take rumors, gossip or blant lies to get their point across. The lesson in hand is find out facts by calling those involved.

Anonymous said...

Mark my words - unless there is huge public outcry, the will build another new school. Mark my words - LP is also going to start talking about a new "campus." Everyone needs to send a letter to the school board and tell them NO NEW SCHOOL!

Anonymous said...

Hmmmm... Three schools split up between grades K through 8. The census says that Peru's population of 5 to 17 year olds is on a 2% decline with a base of about 1,600. The population of 0 to 4 year olds is increasing at a rate of 3% - but the base is only about 500 kids. So the kid population is going down. The answer is simple - close down Washington School - sell it off like they did Roosevelt. Put the $11 million in the bank and use it to maintain "The Parkview" - don't do anything except abolutely necessary work at Northview. As the population continues to decrease, move consolidate at "The Parkview." Start saving additional money in a "new school fund." If the age of the population turns around and we start getting more kids, we will have a head start. It is also interesting to note that Peru's population increase - the over 65 population is growing at a rate of 7.2%. The 18 to 64 group is growing at about 6%.

Anonymous said...

Hopefully the L-P board will play it smart and not blow a pile of money on the old school like Hall did a few years ago.

Peru Town Forum said...

5:50 PM

You have hit the nail on the head, that is exactly what is happening. No matter how much city leaders spin the facts as they see them, that is not always reality.

Anonymous said...

4:27 it is not a mystery they are talking about using grant funding to either build a school to replace Washington or add on to Northview and go to two schools instead of three. That is what they are doing and it is not a secret or a conspiracy so we don't need to "mark your words" thank you very much.

I think some of the points here have been more interesting then the usual crap on this blog. My question for the naysayers (or as Lois would call me "pro school board member") is if it were less expensive for our community (sounds like no cost) to build a school with grant funds then it would be to fix it, you would still say no new school right?

Why? Do you people want higher taxes? Or are you just against everything that any local government does?

Lois you criticize the pro school people here but not one person has done anything but attack with cheap shots or say NO SCHOOL!

Any facts? Why? I think the "pro school" make sense but maybe you can convince me otherwise.

Anonymous said...

5:50.......then where would the Washington kids go to school? You can't close a school without providing roughly the same square footage somewhere else. The district has like 1,000 kids.

Lois you said 5:50 hit the nail on the head. Because why? The 18 to 64 demographic is growing by 6 percent? Do you actually believe that the Peru population is going down at a rate that will cause any significant percentage of students to leave? OMG and LOL.

Peru Town Forum said...

6:54 PM

All I have to do is look at my friends who had children that went to school with mine and see that all have left the Illinois Valley. I have known and commented on this for many years and it continues today. After children leave to go to college they don't return. Are you going to tell me this is not taking place?

Anonymous said...

Now that is an excellent point. I agree many of our own educated kids leave BUT you are making some type of assumption that they are not being replaced by people who make babies. Our community is much more transient than people realize. I have a lot of teacher friends and the low income population and special needs of the kids the schools have to provide for has really changed. The school district has gained kids over the last 10 years not lost them. It is very different than when I went to school and even when my kids went to school a few years back but this is another reason I am so adamantly supportive of the school system. It is the best run system and I am scared to think where out town would be without it.

Peru Town Forum said...

7:28 PM

The transient population is of great concern and the special needs are also. The needs of those students may not be the same as what we need for the students of today. Also I have seen locally the change of the taxpayer base. Growing up in Peru in an area where everyone owned their own home to the way it is now in many areas of Peru where rentals almost predominate. The homes are on a downward slide in numerous areas of town in areas where proud home owners lived at one time.
What that means to the school district I don't know but I do know that the shrinking tax base cannot produce more money for the school systems.

H, Tom said...

8:24
I'm sure you seem to know everything too !!! I guess we'll see how long it is before taxes are raised to support both ( if this one is built ) ?

Anonymous said...

6:48 - no, we want lower taxes. Grant funding comes from taxes. The State of Illinois is bankrupt. One of the reasons that the state is bankrupt is because of spending money on unnecessary things... like $11 Million to the Peru Schools. Waste, waste, wast... It is Pork, pork, pork. The $11 million should be removed from the State budget. We don't need it and we don't want it. It is a wast of money and we need should send it back to Springfield. The State should not be spending money it does not have! I don't care if it is for Peru's kids - the State of Illinois is flat busted broke!

Anonymous said...

Has anyone looked at the information on the school districts web page. The school put information out to parents on facebook the same day the newspaper had an article. It actually explains a lot. Hopeflly this will paste in..

www.perued.net/vnews/display.v/ART/48c07d0ccc7bc

Anonymous said...

Could someone please explain to me the reason the 11 million dollar grant is tied to the construction of Parkview? Is it because there was no property taxes used to build that school?

Anonymous said...

God made the Idiot for practice, and then He made the School Board.
Mark Twain

Anonymous said...

If the transient population is the problem, then we should charge a special tax on rental property. Maybe 10% or 20% of the rent should be distributed to the school.

Anonymous said...

The topic should not be about what Peru Public Schools does with this money. It makes no difference what they do with it – they can pass it out to trick or treeters for all it matters. The problem is that the State of Illinois continues to waste money that it does not have. The system is broken. The incumbent government – it makes no difference which party – uses grants such as this to bribe the yokel locals. How long is it going to be before Quinncometax flies into the Peru airport and lets us know his redistributionist progressive policies are “creating jobs”?
I think it is funny when I talk to people that complain about the state and federal governments wasting money…. Until I bring up some local pork – such as this barrel of money being redistributed to Peru Public Schools. It’s all good when it’s our pork chop.

Anonymous said...

Property owners pay additional real-estate tax when they rent a property. Please research before you come up with some tax idea.

Anonymous said...

I know they do. But they are not paying enough. An additional 10% or 20% of the rent income would be appropriate. After all - they are usually rich and really don't need the money. The school board and other governments have a better use for it than the rental property owners.

Anonymous said...

I have read through these comments and I read what the school district has on its website. It is actually very impressive and detailed. They are still doing their homework but to this date I can't see what you would change.

As a person who runs a business that has to deal with a lot of infrastructure and building overhead, one thing you don't want to be penny wise and pound foolish when it comes to investing in your infrastructure. You have to get the maximum bang for your buck.

I commend the superintendent and board for having a plan and a forward looking vision that could get us not one but two old buildings replaced with no property tax. This doesn't just happen and I think what they claim is correct. By default it will save us millions of dollars down the road.

Whatever your views It is hard to understand why a Peru taxpayer would not like what is going on, personal feelings about a neat old building like Washington aside. I went there years ago but this is not about me or yesterday. Its about the future and where we go from here.

If I ran my business thinking about how it was way back when I would get left behind. A lot of government spending should be scrutinized. I will just say that I could not put together a better business plan than what I see here.

One last comment if I can on the issue of the state passing out money and the school district sending the money back. I understand why some people would not be happy with the state sending out construction grants, but you cannot fault the school district for applying for a grant. Businesses also apply for grants when they can get them. It is part of economic development but this one was no a "'pork" job that some politician handed out. The Capital Development Board does not work that way. Whatever your feelings the district got the grant because they earned it.

Anonymous said...

The erpson who wrote at 7:46, referring to my previous post this is also explained. It is nothing to do with sales taxes. As I understand it the district qualified for the grant with space shortages and old buildings which I assume to mean roosevelt and Washington. They are now getting the money because they did the project but did not think the money would ever come which is understandable because the grant was from like 10 year ago. So this is a bonus if you will and the district can decide how to use the money but has to be used for building related costs. Two biulldings. Unbelievable. Every school district would like to be in the position ours is in.

Anonymous said...

4:59 - I am not faulting the school for applying for the grant and would not expect them to send the money back. My point is that the grant should not be available in the first place. Spending like this is not necessary - especially when the state government has spent itself into the poor house. The state needs to cut back on many things - pension reform is not going to be the cure all. A quick (but painful) way to do this would be to reset the entire budget to zero and make the legislature and governor "re-authorize" every payment and program one at a time, arguing the merrits of each program in the light of day. Put a big sign in the middle of the rotunda listing the expected revenue and current spending. When the numbers zero each other out, the exercise is over.

Anonymous said...

The problem is so simple to fix. North Dakota has a budget surplus of almost $2 Billion. Just take it from them since they don't need it. Illinois has better things to do with the money so rich states should redistribute their extra money to poor states like Illinois.

Anonymous said...

8:50 - Did you write the 11:09 comment???

Anonymous said...

6:14 - yes, of course. I am trying to say that money must be taken from the rich and distributed to the poor.

Anonymous said...

7:15 Please move to the mountains and hide with your money so you don't have to pay taxes and redistribute your wealth, wealth I am sure is due only to your hard work, great diligence , saving, and in no part due to your station, family business, or God forbid simple luck.

Why can't everybody just be rich like you?

Why can't everyone just buy their health insurance?

Why can't everyone just act and think just like you and be self sufficient?

Most importantly, why can't everyone write sarcastically instead of arguing logically and presenting actual compromise solutions. It's so much funnier to pretend you are someone who believes in communism and want everyone to redistribute wealth.

You are a one joke idiot.

Anonymous said...

You don't make the poor rich by making the rich poor.

Anonymous said...

8:34 When you make the poor rich, get back to me Mr Reagan.

Trickle down economics flies in the face of the shrinking middle class, Rich getting richer, poor getting poorer. It has been happening non stop for years.

Govt is not stopping your trickle. Out of control health costs are one of the main causes of bankruptcy and destruction of middle class wealth. Greed and deceit of the upper one percent in the financial sector practically ground the country into the second great depression.

Save your Tea Party catch phrases when you try to pick up Sarah Palin in a bar. The rest of us will try to deal with reality.

Anonymous said...

So being a little bit communist is OK? I think not. The liberals or progressives are great at slowly taking away rights and taxing wealth.

Anonymous said...

I believe that 7:15 doesn't have a pot and is jealous of anyone who does.

Anonymous said...

Classic blog discussion. Starts off okay about a relevant topic and now we are talking communism. Classic. Lol.

Anonymous said...

Would the new school have a gym, swimming pool and botanical garden area plus a petting zoo. This would enable children to learn about plants and flowere plus animals. Also this would be a place to teach the children of Peru how to swim. If you are getting all that money and don't want to use it to pay off Parkside you might want to really splurge, afterall you are Peru, Leader of the Illinois Valley.

Anonymous said...

used to be leader of the illinois valley - now the joke of the illinois valley!

Anonymous said...

How is Peru the joke of the Illinois Valley? Because a few disgruntled citizens on a blog say it is? Because you say so?

I don't find that to be the case at all. We have a pretty nice town, one of the lower tax rates, great schools and a lot of good people. Certainly not everything is perfect, but the negativity in this blog does nothing to promote anything good. No impetus for change. No organization to make something better. Just a place for the sad and disgruntled which is a big minority.

I guess this is just for you Lois as you never post these types of things. Keep beating up our town or tell my I'm a Harl supporter.

I'm a Peru supporter and ort town is bigger than anyone who temporarily holds an office and instead of complaining I choose to get involved and make a difference for my town. I wish more did the same.

Peru Town Forum said...

6:49 PM

Personally I think you are rather cowardly, you pound your chest and praise yourself while you criticize me. Are you aware that I sign my name always and you cower behind the ANON. What does that say about your stand up attitude?

Anonymous said...

Of course you criticize me and say I pound my chest and call me a coward. This from the person (yes you put your name on it, congratulations) who runs a blog that solely exists because of theanonymity. So people who lie, criticize, spread rumors and offer absolutely nothing are praised for speaking up.

I speak up for my town and actually believe that we are bigger than any office holder. If you knew me or who I was you would find that we agree on many things. I just don't think the constant criticism of everything with ZERO solutions offered up does anything for anyone.

It's sad. No, t's pathetic. Just like your response to me. It will be my last post which I am sure you are more than happy about as you do not respond well to people who disagree with you. Isn't that one of your biggest criticism of our city leaders?

I just wish you had something more positive to contribute. Good luck.

Anonymous said...

Anon 7:23 Do you realize that constructive criticism may be positive and/or negative? You mention city leaders, I do know that Peru has elected people in city positions but they are not city leaders. Most realize this and this difference is probably why you don't understand Lois' viewpoint.

Anonymous said...

7:23- I can guarantee you that the blogs on this site are most of the time are true. I myself blog under animosity because of who I am and who I'm related to. I have always blogged the truth and I would and could with 100% certainty back my comments up with facts. Since this forum has existed I have blogged more than 50 times. My blogs have indeed opened up some peoples eyes. I assure you of this. There would be a shock and awe if I were to disclose my name. Happy blogging and freedom of speech. My opinion is that the perus school board is on the right track. I don't know Lois and have never met her, but, I commend her for all the time that she has put into this blog site and for going to council meetings to inform the public who don't have the time to be involved. Hopefully when I retire I can become more involved.