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Tuesday, February 22, 2011
Letter
28 comments:
Anonymous
said...
My only comment (if this letter proves true) is WOW how could anyone let this get so out of control?
It's obvious the PVAS Board of Directors has no management sense and they have only enabled the service to continue to deteriorate and become dysfunfctional. The only honorable thing for these aldermen board memebers to do is instruct PVAS legal counsel Doug Schwieckert to re-structure the By-Laws to allow for "qualified" board memebers from the general public who understand how to run this service. This must happen soon. If Ankiewicz, O'Beirne, and Mykiska refuse to step down the service will not survive the loss of revenue when LaSalle breaks away.
This is so ridiculous that this is even allowed to go on. How sad that the employees are left to BEG & PLEAD for a change. That Ambulance hasn't been the same since Pat ran the service. The men who have been the directors since her have proven to be unqualified, lazy embezzlers! Revamp this poor service by first getting rid of the Director and then clean the house of the Board! Their are so many good people there that do care about their job and the citizen's they serve. This is a shame!
This is total BS. I am an emt-B at PVAS. I have been there for a long time. We all know who wrote this crap and if you dont just read the letter it is very clear. I he was this crooked he would have been easily sucked into the last directors thievery. I am proud to work at PVAS and these couple of troublemakers DO NOT SPEAK FOR ME!!!
jail Report 10-21Oct 21, 2010 05:07PMThe following is provided by the La Salle County Sheriff's office, listing those processed at the jail, with their age, address, day of processing and pending charge(s):Steven P. Mundy, 25, 1326 E. 12th St., Streator, Tuesday, aggravated battery.Mark T. Roberson, 49, 1828 Calhoun St., Peru, Tuesday, writ.Justin R. Sedam, 17, 319 E. Second St., Oglesby, Wednesday, aggravated batter
This information was published in The Ottawa Times online and was not published in the News Trib of La Salle Peru on the date shown on the previous posting. This in itself is not a reason for the dissatisfaction at the ambulance service but certainly can be a contributing factor to the lack of confidence in the current management. Since this was the second time it had happened, the Board was certainly aware. Was he reprimanded by the Board of Directors? I do think it is time for the current sitting Board of Directors to start making public statements to the residents of this city and stop hiding behind the brick walls of PVAS. I say that we as taxpayers of this city who are contributing to the funding need to know.
People who don't like their boss, usually move on and maybe that is why I hear there is such a high turnover of employees and very few if any are from Peru.
Well let's point out a few things that are both correct and incorrect. I am an outsider who at one time worked for Peru Ambulance, as well as 10/33. There are several issues that people comment on which need to be addressed and/or corrected. 1) Steve, PVAS is run by a board of directors that likes to have their hand in operations from time to time, and oddly enough, when Mayor Baker was on board had a vested interest, thus the overflow of that same attitude up to today. The legal counsel of Mr. Schweikert has been used for hiring, firing, and general advice, not only by Mr. Roberson, I assume, but by past directors. 2)To Anonymous #1, the employees of PVAS, just like at 10/33, beg and plead to their board because they are unhappy constantly. I am in no way saying what Mr. Roberson does is right, I don't support what he has done, but if you know the people who bounce back and forth from service to service in the Illinois Valley, none of them could work a regular job, they would be fired or face discipline on a regular basis. When they don't like how they are being treated, they go to the top, the people who should NOT be involved in operations. 3) Anonymous #2, who wrote it? Put it out there for all of us. The writer can't even spell the names of coworkers or an alderman correctly. And not to sign a letter? If the allegations are true and not enforced, what intelligence would it take for them to be fired? It would be a public battle that would only favor the writer's position. 4)Lois, yes, you are a taxpayer, but PVAS is a private, contracted company. The city may have to answer to you for what they do, but you are not taxed for service from PVAS. Turnover at PVAS, by the way, is typically because there are people who don't like structure or rules, and when PVAS started to implement them after Pat Jacklovich died, they saw that they could try and get away with more and take advantage of the situation.
And in closing, the City of Peru can contract or provide whatever ambulance service they see fit. PVAS is, again, a private entity, created by citizens of the area in 1980. If you are worried about the operation of the service, it's great to hear your concerns. I would, however, be interested to hear the response of the citizens of Peru if the fire department began staffing an ambulance. The Illinois Valley is behind the times by not staffing a full-time fire department. Yes, they have a paid engineer, but that is not staffing of a firetruck. When you have 2 or 3 firemen on an engine company and you add 2 paramedics to staff an ambulance, you will see salaries soar. The citizens of the Illinois Valley would only benefit from this protection, and they would commend it when they need it. However, 99% of the citizens will complain when they have to pay for staffing, benefits, and pensions.
Best of luck to the city in this endeavor to keep an adequate ambulance service in place.
Most of these people can't move on, if they had to have a regular job they would never last. I agree if these things have been done that it is not right of him, however, it's a 2-way street around there.
4:04PM Thank you, we appreciate all your well thought out comments. My comment about being a taxpayer refers to the 48,000 per year the city spends to subsidize the ambulance service. I have been in favor of involvement by the Peru FD for a number of years because I know that we would then be getting competent ambulance service by qualified people. Yes Peru is behind the times but as you have stated the previous administration had everything tied up for control and it prevented any real progress regarding this.
One more comment. Knowing that PVAS is a not for profit organization and not subject to any city control, it is disturbing that when someone calls 911, PVAS is immediately sent out to administer help, we have no choice. It doesn't seem right that anyone can set up an ambulance privately and we have no choice we must use their service. If they don't want to be subject to city regulations, then another service should be allowed to come in. A little competition would not be a back thing. Of course I realize that would not happen because the area served is too small. A FD service seems to be the answer imho
Well Lois, I'd have to agree that a fire department service is the answer. It can be rather costly to the taxpayers, however it has it's benefits. The political climate of the IV will most likely never allow this, but here's the bonus.......ambulances in other cities also respond to fires. When you have a crew of 5 or 6 (3 or 4 on the engine and 2 on the ambulance) you have the right number of people there to start fighting a fire without waiting for volunteers. If a rescue is needed in a fire, the ambulance is right there. I'm not bashing volunteers, I'm just saying that if you have personnel at a station, ready to go, it cuts down on response time. Fire doubles in size every single minute. Billing for medical calls will offset some of this cost, I wouldn't be able to put a number on it, and the cost would still be high, but it is an option. Full time fire departments aid in insurance ratings, and that entices industry. It's progress, it can be seen in the suburban areas. Cross trained firefighters are in the neighborhoods on calls, familiar with the city, and can provide services such as prevention training, inspections, and all around good PR for a city. I'm not doubting the ability, skills, or competency of some of the people who work at PVAS, however, like I stated earlier, their work ethic has alot to be questioned. As I also said, many of them never had what I consider to be a "real job". This letter, though with some good points, proves the respect for the proper way of handling their issues. You should find out how many of them have bounced from service to service, or couldn't hold down a private industry job. I could care less if they knew that anyone had this opinion, because they know it is true. Competition with another private is not the answer, I believe 10-33 provided service to LaSalle in the 80's, and from what I have ever heard, this only caused problems that have lasted several years. I don't know who has the answer, but it's sad that the issue has to play out in the press.
It is playing out in the press because no one on the Board of Directors will admit that problems exist and that they are looking for ways to solve them. This is something that affects the general public and it needs to be aired. When I am looking for medical care I ask questions, research doctors and institutions to find answers. We in Peru are told, this is it you use the ambulance service and no we don't have to answer your questions. We should know who is working there and what their qualifications are and that is from the top to the bottom. There should be evaluations as needed or required. Open the window and let some fresh air in.
I disagree about these people not being able to hold regular jobs. If you know them as well as you say you do, then you know that these are true: Most of them work more than one job-becuase EMS pays nothing in the grand scheme of things. They may volunteer at another service, volunteer for other duties in their communities Despite all of this they still do not have the respect that we, as the community owe them. EMS is an evolving and growing profession. You would be surprised at how much education it takes to be able to call yourself an EMT of any level--and the continuing education that goes with it. Next time you need an ambulance--for you or a loved one--Please remember to thank all of those who respond to take care of you. The Illinois Valley is fortunate to have several groups of EMT's committed to providing excellent pre-hospital care.
Thank the EMT's for doing the job they're getting paid for??? If you're not paid enough as an EMT at Peru Ambulance maybe it's time to look for another job. Sometime during your schooling you had to be told that the money is in fire based EMS, not private or non-for profit EMS.
Anon4:37 I have not had one second of EMS schooling. Would you please elaborate on your sentence "Sometime during your schooling you had to be told that the money is in fire based EMS,not private or non -for profit EMS".
I plead that I am incorrect in believing that you are stating that it would cost more to have a local fire department operate the ambulance service than it would for a non-for profit corporation such as PVAS. Please share some of your experience and knowledge with us before it is too late. Thank You.
To anonymous 2:11--This is not a problem unique to Peru Ambulance. EMS is not business that pays well, except in larger cities and towns. So,yes--thank them for what they do. Be glad that they do it!
To anonymous 9:57 -- Quit whining about how "EMS is not a business that pays well." Last I checked you could get a job that pays well doing EMS if you're in good physical shape (evident by physical agility testing), have the knowledge to pass some stringent written tests, interview well, and are able to pass 8 hours of psychological testing. That's what it takes to become a firefighter/paramedic. These people shouldn't be doing this for the "thank you's," they should be doing it because they were sworn to protect and save lives. In the fire service it's not as simple as putting in an application and getting hired a week later. You might have hundreds of applicants testing for 5 positions. This assures you get the very best people to care for you in a medical or fire emergency.
Can anyone answer how many equipped ambulances we have in Peru? Also, what is their policy when on duty? Do they stay at the station and check out the units and attend the phones and other duties? Or, do they ride around town much as the Police do? It seems as though there has been constant mention of the station being centrally located between La Salle and Peru yet, I have witnessed units responding to calls and they appear to be coming from the opposite direction. I have also witnessed two ambulances together (one right after the other) riding around town. Is this standard procedure? There seems to be many questions regarding PVAS that go unanswered. Can anyone enlighten us on these issues?
To Anon on 2/25, I stand behind the fact that these people could not work elsewhere in this or any other profession. If you took them out of the Illinois Valley pit of EMS, they would struggle. They are not used to working in a system where they cannot whine to a board or pull this public outcry garbage. Yep, there are some skilled people there, but if they are so skilled, why do they not go elsewhere, somewhere where there is more money and opportunity? Simple answer, they can't. As the person said regarding fire positions, that is true, they could not overcome those hurdles. I guess that's why they fight so bad for what they have, the gravy train is gone. As for respect, stuff like this letter and their normal antics keep that from being earned. I say "earned", not "owed". We owe no one respect for a position.
To anon at 5:44am. Peru currently has 6 equiped ambulances. Three are advancced life support and 3 are basic life support. Normally the crews are at the station for a 24 hr shift. You may see ambulances driving around town, and there can be several reasons for this. They may be running to the gas station for fuel, may be on a transfer or may be running to get something for lunch. Staff are not allowed to leave the building uless they are in an ambulance. You may see ambulances responding from different directions because they may have been at the hospital, returning from a call or they may be at lunch and get up to respond from there. Ambulance personnel do not answer the phones when you call 911. This is handled by Peru police dispatch who then pages the ambulance service to respond
12;48 Thank you for your response but I don't think you realize how much riding around these vehicles seem to be doing. Do they both have to go to lunch and dinner at the same time? Why are they often following one another (casually = not to an emergency)? I think it's a waste of gas for them to be riding around so often (especially with the price of gas today).
You don't have to start out fulltime fire medic try seperate fulltime medics partime basic or maybe your fulltime driver should be a basic and start there many options through fire based ems to intially keep cost down and see what billing comes in and add personal as money allows . This allows you best of all worlds and people that have structure and strictor rules and standards.
You are correct, but the engineers hired by the city of Peru are union firemen. The IAFF will not support outside paramedics operating under the fire department, and the personnel currently in the union would be foolish to lose their bargaining rights.
Last I checked LaSalle Engineers were members of the IAFF and they have a private ambulance company operating out of their station. LaSalle didn't lose their bargaining rights, but the ambulance employees don't have any.
If that is correct that LaSalle is also union then congrats to them for putting the cities needs 1st !!! As for the ambulance employees not having any rights I think that is incorrect the company they work for has a contract and these people should have been informed what was expected so they could either accept the position or stay where they were or apply some where else.I think they also use there POC so 2 als ambulances can be staffed what a concept fulltime emtB/engineers and emtb/firefighters POC or part time and fulltime paramedic WOW !
No, the ambulance employees don't have any bargaining rights, they are at will employees. You only have bargaining rights in Illinois if you belong to a union.
28 comments:
My only comment (if this letter proves true) is WOW how could anyone let this get so out of control?
It's obvious the PVAS Board of Directors has no management sense and they have only enabled the service to continue to deteriorate and become dysfunfctional.
The only honorable thing for these aldermen board memebers to do is instruct PVAS legal counsel Doug Schwieckert to re-structure the By-Laws to allow for "qualified" board memebers from the general public who understand how to run this service.
This must happen soon. If Ankiewicz, O'Beirne, and Mykiska refuse to step down the service will not survive the loss of revenue when LaSalle breaks away.
This is so ridiculous that this is even allowed to go on. How sad that the employees are left to BEG & PLEAD for a change. That Ambulance hasn't been the same since Pat ran the service. The men who have been the directors since her have proven to be unqualified, lazy embezzlers! Revamp this poor service by first getting rid of the Director and then clean the house of the Board! Their are so many good people there that do care about their job and the citizen's they serve. This is a shame!
This is total BS. I am an emt-B at PVAS. I have been there for a long time. We all know who wrote this crap and if you dont just read the letter it is very clear. I he was this crooked he would have been easily sucked into the last directors thievery. I am proud to work at PVAS and these couple of troublemakers DO NOT SPEAK FOR ME!!!
jail Report 10-21Oct 21, 2010 05:07PMThe following is provided by the La Salle County Sheriff's office, listing those processed at the jail, with their age, address, day of processing and pending charge(s):Steven P. Mundy, 25, 1326 E. 12th St., Streator, Tuesday, aggravated battery.Mark T. Roberson, 49, 1828 Calhoun St., Peru, Tuesday, writ.Justin R. Sedam, 17, 319 E. Second St., Oglesby, Wednesday, aggravated batter
This information was published in The Ottawa Times online and was not published in the News Trib of La Salle Peru on the date shown on the previous posting.
This in itself is not a reason for the dissatisfaction at the ambulance service but certainly can be a contributing factor to the lack of confidence in the current management. Since this was the second time it had happened, the Board was certainly aware. Was he reprimanded by the Board of Directors? I do think it is time for the current sitting Board of Directors to start making public statements to the residents of this city and stop hiding behind the brick walls of PVAS. I say that we as taxpayers of this city who are contributing to the funding need to know.
This letter sounds like disgruntle employees venting. They don't like their boss..
People who don't like their boss, usually move on and maybe that is why I hear there is such a high turnover of employees and very few if any are from Peru.
Well let's point out a few things that are both correct and incorrect. I am an outsider who at one time worked for Peru Ambulance, as well as 10/33. There are several issues that people comment on which need to be addressed and/or corrected.
1) Steve, PVAS is run by a board of directors that likes to have their hand in operations from time to time, and oddly enough, when Mayor Baker was on board had a vested interest, thus the overflow of that same attitude up to today. The legal counsel of Mr. Schweikert has been used for hiring, firing, and general advice, not only by Mr. Roberson, I assume, but by past directors.
2)To Anonymous #1, the employees of PVAS, just like at 10/33, beg and plead to their board because they are unhappy constantly. I am in no way saying what Mr. Roberson does is right, I don't support what he has done, but if you know the people who bounce back and forth from service to service in the Illinois Valley, none of them could work a regular job, they would be fired or face discipline on a regular basis. When they don't like how they are being treated, they go to the top, the people who should NOT be involved in operations.
3) Anonymous #2, who wrote it? Put it out there for all of us. The writer can't even spell the names of coworkers or an alderman correctly. And not to sign a letter? If the allegations are true and not enforced, what intelligence would it take for them to be fired? It would be a public battle that would only favor the writer's position.
4)Lois, yes, you are a taxpayer, but PVAS is a private, contracted company. The city may have to answer to you for what they do, but you are not taxed for service from PVAS. Turnover at PVAS, by the way, is typically because there are people who don't like structure or rules, and when PVAS started to implement them after Pat Jacklovich died, they saw that they could try and get away with more and take advantage of the situation.
And in closing, the City of Peru can contract or provide whatever ambulance service they see fit. PVAS is, again, a private entity, created by citizens of the area in 1980. If you are worried about the operation of the service, it's great to hear your concerns. I would, however, be interested to hear the response of the citizens of Peru if the fire department began staffing an ambulance. The Illinois Valley is behind the times by not staffing a full-time fire department. Yes, they have a paid engineer, but that is not staffing of a firetruck. When you have 2 or 3 firemen on an engine company and you add 2 paramedics to staff an ambulance, you will see salaries soar. The citizens of the Illinois Valley would only benefit from this protection, and they would commend it when they need it. However, 99% of the citizens will complain when they have to pay for staffing, benefits, and pensions.
Best of luck to the city in this endeavor to keep an adequate ambulance service in place.
Most of these people can't move on, if they had to have a regular job they would never last. I agree if these things have been done that it is not right of him, however, it's a 2-way street around there.
4:04PM
Thank you, we appreciate all your well thought out comments.
My comment about being a taxpayer refers to the 48,000 per year the city spends to subsidize the ambulance service.
I have been in favor of involvement by the Peru FD for a number of years because I know that we would then be getting competent ambulance service by qualified people. Yes Peru is behind the times but as you have stated the previous administration had everything tied up for control and it prevented any real progress regarding this.
One more comment.
Knowing that PVAS is a not for profit organization and not subject to any city control, it is disturbing that when someone calls 911, PVAS is immediately sent out to administer help, we have no choice.
It doesn't seem right that anyone can set up an ambulance privately and we have no choice we must use their service. If they don't want to be subject to city regulations, then another service should be allowed to come in. A little competition would not be a back thing. Of course I realize that would not happen because the area served is too small. A FD service seems to be the answer imho
Well Lois, I'd have to agree that a fire department service is the answer. It can be rather costly to the taxpayers, however it has it's benefits. The political climate of the IV will most likely never allow this, but here's the bonus.......ambulances in other cities also respond to fires. When you have a crew of 5 or 6 (3 or 4 on the engine and 2 on the ambulance) you have the right number of people there to start fighting a fire without waiting for volunteers. If a rescue is needed in a fire, the ambulance is right there. I'm not bashing volunteers, I'm just saying that if you have personnel at a station, ready to go, it cuts down on response time. Fire doubles in size every single minute. Billing for medical calls will offset some of this cost, I wouldn't be able to put a number on it, and the cost would still be high, but it is an option. Full time fire departments aid in insurance ratings, and that entices industry. It's progress, it can be seen in the suburban areas. Cross trained firefighters are in the neighborhoods on calls, familiar with the city, and can provide services such as prevention training, inspections, and all around good PR for a city. I'm not doubting the ability, skills, or competency of some of the people who work at PVAS, however, like I stated earlier, their work ethic has alot to be questioned. As I also said, many of them never had what I consider to be a "real job". This letter, though with some good points, proves the respect for the proper way of handling their issues. You should find out how many of them have bounced from service to service, or couldn't hold down a private industry job. I could care less if they knew that anyone had this opinion, because they know it is true. Competition with another private is not the answer, I believe 10-33 provided service to LaSalle in the 80's, and from what I have ever heard, this only caused problems that have lasted several years. I don't know who has the answer, but it's sad that the issue has to play out in the press.
It is playing out in the press because no one on the Board of Directors will admit that problems exist and that they are looking for ways to solve them. This is something that affects the general public and it needs to be aired.
When I am looking for medical care I ask questions, research doctors and institutions to find answers.
We in Peru are told, this is it you use the ambulance service and no we don't have to answer your questions. We should know who is working there and what their qualifications are and that is from the top to the bottom. There should be evaluations as needed or required. Open the window and let some fresh air in.
I disagree about these people not being able to hold regular jobs. If you know them as well as you say you do, then you know that these are true: Most of them work more than one job-becuase EMS pays nothing in the grand scheme of things. They may volunteer at another service, volunteer for other duties in their communities Despite all of this they still do not have the respect that we, as the community owe them. EMS is an evolving and growing profession. You would be surprised at how much education it takes to be able to call yourself an EMT of any level--and the continuing education that goes with it.
Next time you need an ambulance--for you or a loved one--Please remember to thank all of those who respond to take care of you. The Illinois Valley is fortunate to have several groups of EMT's committed to providing excellent pre-hospital care.
Thank the EMT's for doing the job they're getting paid for??? If you're not paid enough as an EMT at Peru Ambulance maybe it's time to look for another job. Sometime during your schooling you had to be told that the money is in fire based EMS, not private or non-for profit EMS.
Anon4:37 I have not had one second of EMS schooling. Would you please elaborate on your sentence "Sometime during your schooling you had to be told that the money is in fire based EMS,not private or non -for profit EMS".
I plead that I am incorrect in believing that you are stating that it would cost more to have a local fire department operate the ambulance service than it would for a non-for profit corporation such as PVAS. Please share some of your experience and knowledge with us before it is too late. Thank You.
To anonymous 2:11--This is not a problem unique to Peru Ambulance. EMS is not business that pays well, except in larger cities and towns. So,yes--thank them for what they do. Be glad that they do it!
To anonymous 9:57 -- Quit whining about how "EMS is not a business that pays well." Last I checked you could get a job that pays well doing EMS if you're in good physical shape (evident by physical agility testing), have the knowledge to pass some stringent written tests, interview well, and are able to pass 8 hours of psychological testing. That's what it takes to become a firefighter/paramedic. These people shouldn't be doing this for the "thank you's," they should be doing it because they were sworn to protect and save lives. In the fire service it's not as simple as putting in an application and getting hired a week later. You might have hundreds of applicants testing for 5 positions. This assures you get the very best people to care for you in a medical or fire emergency.
Can anyone answer how many equipped ambulances we have in Peru? Also, what is their policy when on duty? Do they stay at the station and check out the units and attend the phones and other duties? Or, do they ride around town much as the Police do? It seems as though there has been constant mention of the station being centrally located between La Salle and Peru yet, I have witnessed units responding to calls and they appear to be coming from the opposite direction. I have also witnessed two ambulances together (one right after the other) riding around town. Is this standard procedure? There seems to be many questions regarding PVAS that go unanswered. Can anyone enlighten us on these issues?
To Anon on 2/25, I stand behind the fact that these people could not work elsewhere in this or any other profession. If you took them out of the Illinois Valley pit of EMS, they would struggle. They are not used to working in a system where they cannot whine to a board or pull this public outcry garbage. Yep, there are some skilled people there, but if they are so skilled, why do they not go elsewhere, somewhere where there is more money and opportunity? Simple answer, they can't. As the person said regarding fire positions, that is true, they could not overcome those hurdles. I guess that's why they fight so bad for what they have, the gravy train is gone. As for respect, stuff like this letter and their normal antics keep that from being earned. I say "earned", not "owed". We owe no one respect for a position.
To anon at 5:44am. Peru currently has 6 equiped ambulances. Three are advancced life support and 3 are basic life support. Normally the crews are at the station for a 24 hr shift. You may see ambulances driving around town, and there can be several reasons for this. They may be running to the gas station for fuel, may be on a transfer or may be running to get something for lunch. Staff are not allowed to leave the building uless they are in an ambulance. You may see ambulances responding from different directions because they may have been at the hospital, returning from a call or they may be at lunch and get up to respond from there. Ambulance personnel do not answer the phones when you call 911. This is handled by Peru police dispatch who then pages the ambulance service to respond
12;48 Thank you for your response but I don't think you realize how much riding around these vehicles seem to be doing. Do they both have to go to lunch and dinner at the same time? Why are they often following one another (casually = not to an emergency)? I think it's a waste of gas for them to be riding around so often (especially with the price of gas today).
You don't have to start out fulltime fire medic try seperate fulltime medics partime basic or maybe your fulltime driver should be a basic and start there many options through fire based ems to intially keep cost down and see what billing comes in and add personal as money allows . This allows you best of all worlds and people that have structure and strictor rules and standards.
You are correct, but the engineers hired by the city of Peru are union firemen. The IAFF will not support outside paramedics operating under the fire department, and the personnel currently in the union would be foolish to lose their bargaining rights.
Last I checked LaSalle Engineers were members of the IAFF and they have a private ambulance company operating out of their station. LaSalle didn't lose their bargaining rights, but the ambulance employees don't have any.
If that is correct that LaSalle is also union then congrats to them for putting the cities needs 1st !!! As for the ambulance employees not having any rights I think that is incorrect the company they work for has a contract and these people should have been informed what was expected so they could either accept the position or stay where they were or apply some where else.I think they also use there POC so 2 als ambulances can be staffed what a concept fulltime emtB/engineers and emtb/firefighters POC or part time and fulltime paramedic WOW !
No, the ambulance employees don't have any bargaining rights, they are at will employees. You only have bargaining rights in Illinois if you belong to a union.
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