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Wednesday, April 22, 2015

Want to help clean up Spring Valley? - LaSalle News Tribune - LaSalle, IL

Want to help clean up Spring Valley? - LaSalle News Tribune - LaSalle, IL

Spring Valley another city working with volunteer residents. Good job Spring Valley.

49 comments:

Anonymous said...

Without Alderman Perez, you can kiss Peru having volunteer clean up days goodbye! Can you see any of the other city officials organizing clean up days or flower planting? NO!!

Anonymous said...

We don't need city officials to do this. In fact, it runs much better without government involvement. Everything runs much better without government involvement.

Anonymous said...

9:32 AM

From a residents point of view, we are happy to see government showing us and leading by example. Cities that do this are shown to be much cleaner than those that don't. Helps to give the people some pride in their city.

Anonymous said...

9:32, who will step up to lead volunteer clean up days? Is there a city official or any resident willing to show some pride in Peru? I think not.

Lois said...

10:52 A.M.

With age, we now concentrate on our own property and the sidewalk that crosses the ravine. Years past we did the ravine itself. I remember hauling bedsprings out and putting them out for the cities clean up days. But I don't think citizens should have to clean up the roads and parks unless it is a unified effort initiated by the city with trucks to haul away the refuse.

The city needs to be the leader and the helpers will follow. A few aldermen in their own areas might allow them too even meet some of the residents, set a good example and be an encouragement to others to help. Or are we past that time?

Lois said...

One more thought. Last year when the fencing over the 7th st ravine was replaced, we then saw parts of the old wood fencing that were thrown down over the new fence and into the ravine by whomever did the work. Who was watching from the city to make sure this was done properly? Not a good example in my estimation.

Anonymous said...

In the line of volunteer clean up where has anyone got the notion that you need city leadership to promote and do it.
Rodney Perez,alderman or not a alderman, can still be a leader or partake in city clean up. Clean up in no way is the responsibility of a alderman or any other city official. This is exactly why Peru has city employees and summer help.

Anonymous said...

Spring Valley.........the new leader of the valley......because they had a clean up day on earth day. Please.

Anonymous said...

12:04

Your wrong. The most important aspect of a city is how many parades, garbage day clean-up and sled rides and park games like pickleball. Nobody in Peru cares about the tax rates, economic development, utility rates or new schools. Now get off our blog and let us get back to those hammering Peru about those clean-up days, sledding, parades and pickleball.

Anonymous said...

What about civic organization like the CSO or clubs like the Eagles. Veterans organizations. Unions. Merchant's Associations. Bowling Leagues. Little League Baseball.
Government is not the solution to everything. The Citizens, through their associations, need to take the lead to make the city better. This is how things where always done in the past until "we" surrendered our free will to the government.

Anonymous said...

If we had volunteers under the leadership and guidance of our aldermen we wouldn't need to spend money on summer help. As far as the city employees how often have you witnessed one stopping along the roadside to pick trash? I'm not saying they haven"t but I"ve never witnessed it.

Anonymous said...

If the city employees were picking up the trash, why was there a need for Alderman Perez and volunteers including cub scouts, to pick up bags and bags of trash? If the city employees were doing it, the volunteers wouldn't have found any garbage.

Anonymous said...

12:42 that is hilarious because it is so true!

Anonymous said...

1:30 Yes, Make those alderman do that and cut grass, fill potholes, coach little league and teach school. What's wrong with you stepping up and getting a volunteer group? Why do you think these elected must be involved in every part of the city? The problem is that so expect government to provide all. Whatever happened to the days when you were responsible for your family, neighborhood and city?

Anonymous said...

CSO does have pick up days, put up decorations, fund the entertainment for water street fireworks and are working on a sign restoration. Rotary group cleans up and has adopted a Peru park. There are many Peru groups that help out in the city.

Anonymous said...

1:30, you are correct. The government's solution is to spend money on it.

Anonymous said...

2:57. That is good and that is what is required. End of story, we just need the government to get out of the way and let these groups help the community. I think the intent of this post was that Aldermen should be in charge of these things - I say absolutely not, unless that Alderman is acting as a member of the organization and simply participating.

Anonymous said...

Yes, volunteer work done by individuals and groups make a huge difference in a city. To volunteer successfully consumes long hours and much hard work.
A example of a group adopting and cleaning up a park is the Rotary, exactly in hours do they donate to the City Park and how much do they spend.
The CSO has been raising funds for years and sponsoring Peru activites for just as long.
I also have been told that a indpendent group was planting flowers, cleaning parks, working on the flower pots along Route 6 and downtown Peru and Water Street but because of no recognition from the city ,even not as much as a Thank You lost many of this groups volunteers. It appeared that most of the city officials had the thought this group was getting in the way of what they truly wanted.

Anonymous said...

and what the city truly wanted to do was spend money and have a local business water the flowers.

Anonymous said...

The only activity the CSO provides on the 4th is the beer garden.

Anonymous said...

I agree 6:07. I don't want my alderman organizing clean up days or sledding. I want them taking care of city business. Peru has a lot of people who volunteer and do things despite what you don't see on the blog or in a newspaper.

Every community does things a little differently. This is the kind of silly stuff that prevents real discussion from taking place.

Anonymous said...

5:28 PM

Your comment is hardly worth a reply but it is not the kind of alderman I would like to see. Sounds like what you want is aldermen who come to the city hall twice a month for one hour and vote as aked to and certainly don't get involved with any type of communitty or volunteer work. Wait, isn't that what we have now. Bet he doesn't know his/her ward either. What you want is exactly what we have now. Enjoy it. Most won't.

Anonymous said...

8:21, sorry but most do. You can organize a volunteer group if you want, I want my alderman taking care of city business .

Anonymous said...

9:19 PM

How do you know if your aldermans taking care of city business or just attending to vote? I have no idea of what my aldermen are thinking about the city.

Tell me how you know, just wondering.

Anonymous said...

Yes, I agree that the aldermen's primary responsibility is to govern the city and maintain his ward.
If a alderman or aldermen have the desire and enjoy conducting social events or joining volunteer groups and he is fulfilling his primary responsibility it surely is his choice as a private citizen.
It should be emphasized that any private citizen could appeal to the city council to conduct events within the city limits.
The council than have to determine if it beneficial project, amount of finances to be spent and of course liability.
Also it must be remembered that Peru has a long standing Rec. Board and a Recreational Director, who should have ample time to conduct additional city
events since the closing of the swimming pool.
As for the Winter Days at McKinley Park the city already wanted this as their project and should arrange for it to be a scheduled project several times in the winter. Also a Market Days during spring, summer and fall would be a worthy project.
Thought should be given to location of events, such as why should anyone have to drive to the airport for Christmas lightnings when it could be done at the City Park where many more could attend in town, walk thru and possibly sit down on benches to enjoy. Does anyone else have a city sponsored event they would like to see added? I do know that the city sponsors a band several times in the summer at the city plaza, which would be nice to have at a city park to avoid air and noise pollution safety factors.

Anonymous said...

City officials are involved in many volunteer activities like the CSO, concerts for a cause, putting up Christmas decorations, Maude Powell festival, clean up Peoria Street, 4th of July, electronics pick up, planter plantings, and more. That is typical of every community and Peru is no different. As elected many of them provide much more in the way of representation of those in the city. In Peru the Mayor and officials are required to provide oversight to the operations. According to the reports Peru is financially sound, services are well done and its looks like they have some economic direction. Why such deep resentment to those that hold those positions?

Anonymous said...

8:53 am.

The volunteer group was given certificates and recognized at a few city council meetings.

Anonymous said...

Concerts for a cause have been a blatant misuse of government property. I am very happy that we don't need to put up with that B.S. again this year. At least I hope that is the case.

Anonymous said...

@10:28 AM The group which volunteered the 2nd year was recognized and yes there were some who volunteered both the 1st and 2nd year.
The group that volunteered the 1st year were never recognized or thanked at city council meetings nor given certificates and many of this group did not return for the 2nd year. This 1st group planted flowers in all planters along Rt 6, Water Street and the Police-Fire station and worked in Rotary Park, cleaning it up and planting flowers in it.
At that time it was apparent that the city did not want anyone volunteering to do this since they already had some business picked out to pay for the same thing.

Anonymous said...

There are two reasons that the city never recognized the group of volunteers from the 1st year. (1) they had a out of town landscaping business contacted to do work of which some of it was exactly what the volunteers did. (2) the city council had no recognition left nor thank yous since they had all been used up patting each other on the back at council meetings for the great job they thought they did parking cars at the airport concerts.

Anonymous said...

Anon 9:40 AM You ask why such deep resentment towards those that hold city positions. Read unsolicited comments to the blog by a wide spread market segment of Peru citizenship and you will find out the reasons why.
In conclusion I'll verify that the majority are very unhappy with local political traditions and practices. This unhappiness is being caused because they care.
Does it make sense to anyone to turn a huge multi-million dollar investment such as the airport into a Christmas light Show or worse yet into a private enterprises music concert.

Anonymous said...

2:01, I disagree with you when you say the majority of the people are against the way this administration are running things. Just look at the past few elections. What the majority of the people are tired of is people such as yourself think they have all the answers and the electorate are stupid, which was quoted on the blog. Your negativity only hurts, not just the blog, but any candidate you people start praising as the savior.

Lois said...

1:10 PM

You are wrong, most people in Peru don't care and most people are unaware of many things until they have happened. We are patient but frustrated but I believe it is all about demographics and as we continue to lose population it may finally hit home. This last statement is fact.

Anonymous said...

Lois, I will disagree with you on the people leaving this town in droves. The last I checked between the last two census, the city grew from 9700 to last check 10276.

Peru Town Forum said...

3:50 PM

You are deliberately misquoting me, I did NOT say they were leaving in droves because they are not but what is happening is that our youth is leaving and not returning and the old remaining are through having children. And there are more recent guestimates about population throughout the whole state. Watch the births in our local paper and you will see the fine print of what is happening.

Anonymous said...

1:10 Who are you referring to when you say you people? Please be specific.

Anonymous said...

Any gain in the population of the City of Peru is due to the expansion of retirement homes. Sorry to say, a simple look at the census data shows that Peru's population boom is due to assisted living and nursing homes. Short term indeed as the boomers run their course.

Anonymous said...

8:17, did you stay up all night to think up that post. So your saying any city with assisted living and nursing homes are on there way down the tubes. So does that mean Ottawa, Princeton, LaSalle, Oglesby, and Spring Valley done for to?

Anonymous said...

9:47. It is simple demographics. These businesses are doing very well and the industry in expanding rapidly. That is what caused Peru's population to increase on the last census (2010).
The reason that this industry is expanding so rapidly is because their market is increasing even faster. Why is this? Because the Post World War II Baby Boom generation is getting old and needs the services. I believe the figure is something like 10,000 people per day are turning 65. This this increases the population of communities that have these types of facilities.
Anyway, the market will start shrinking to "normal" levels over the next 20 years. In the mean time, families are not having as many kids and there is nothing to attract new people to this area in great numbers.
Take a look around at local restaurants - just go out for lunch and count the number of people that look over 65 and the number that look under 40. This random sample shows that our local population is aging rapidly and not being replaced. This will impact the numbers - sooner rather than later. It will only be a matter of time before retail starts to feel the effects of this and starts closing down.

Now - to directly answer the question you posed. No. But I do believe that communities that don't concentrate on brining in industry that provides jobs will go down the tubes. We need more sand mines, we need more manufacturing, we need more shipping terminals, we need more heavy industry - essentially, we need more of the things that some of our local political figures dislike. Face it - selling corn dogs to Starved Rock tourists does not pay the bills. Mining sand and transporting it does.

Anonymous said...

This issue is the SAME issue in almost every downstate community. Many younger people do leave for jobs in the suburban area. On the other hand I am one of the younger people who have chosen to stay in the area and I get so tired of reading about "ALL" of them are leaving. Peru is in a MUCH better situation than most communities but fools like 11:13 make the comments about selling tourism is wrong.

No actually it is right so long as you are working to attract other industry as well. The problem is the competition is very difficult. You act as though those industries are just looking for a place to build!

People like 10:13 have no understanding of diversification of the economy or how a business is created. I am one part of many young people in the area who work in the financial industry, business, manufacturing, health care and education. We have great leaders and a bright future despite demographic challenges most communities face.

Once you recognize this and try to work together instead of making stupid generalizations you will become part of the solution. Until then you are one of many who are part of the problem. Stop criticizing our local "leaders" as though they are all criminals because they are not. They are good people who actually want to make a difference. You can disagree without sounding like a fool who has no clue.

That or you are a fool who has no clue.

Anonymous said...

Enjoy your Corn Dog Job 12:56. You know as well as I do that the tree huggers want nothing more than for all heavy industry to leave LaSalle County. Our local "leaders" can't see this or they are directly involved.

Anonymous said...

Please read the census. We have a community very much like the rest of middle America. We don't have a massive exodus, we don't have more retirees than any other small town and we don't have companies leaving the IV area. Yes, we don't have a major software company, or a major hospital or University in which many of the highly educated children may be employed in other states. And we are not located in a year round climate for world-wide tourism. Our future is bright and we have to maximize the opportunities we have.

Anonymous said...

3:33, quit making up data. What you said, regarding the census, is not true.

Anonymous said...

City employees cleaning up the city , HA !! The other day when it was so windy and garbage cans and trash was blowing all over , city trucks were driving around them instead of getting out and picking them up . And I personally saw the Foreman do this 3 times along 7th and Peoria streets

Anonymous said...

5:30, 3:33 did not offer any data. What they said is true. Conspiracy theorists like you want to make it sound like local politicians are trying to destroy our community when the opposite is true. We have very similar challenges as other downstate communities. Stop with the conspiracies and see what you can do to help.

Anonymous said...

I get so tired of comments like 9:56. City works just drive around in trucks right? They have other jobs to do not running around chasing garbage on a windy day.

The people that SHOULD pick up the garbage blowing in a neighborhood is YOU! But what did you do? Look at your window and count how many times they didn't pick it up so you could post it on a blog.

Unbelievable.

Anonymous said...

We are not "Down State." Quite talking like some Chicago Liberal. Unless you are one.

Anonymous said...

9:38 I have been one of those citizens who picks up garbage but I too would like to know why city workers (especially the summer kids) can't reach from their lawnmowers or 4 wheelers and pick up trash? As far as city vehicles riding around town they do. They may be going to a job site but I can verify (as many others can) that they take the long-long way to their destination. We should all work together as one city and that doesn't seem to be welcome here in Peru unless you belong on the inside.

Anonymous said...

City vehicles also seem to have only two speeds. Stop (as in workers sleeping in the shade on some deserted street) or faster than hell (as in I need to get back to Peoria Street to punch out).