“It doesn’t take a majority to win, just a tireless minority that will keep starting brush fires in the mind and hearts of their fellow men.”

Samuel Adams

Wednesday, June 04, 2014

Would You Call This Attitude????

48 comments:

Anonymous said...

Why did the Pickleball ambassador direct his question about the tape and diagram only to Becky and not Rodney?

Anonymous said...

I saw a sign advertising the July "Concert for Corruption." The first event in this summer's "Corruption" series will benefit a redundant and unnecessary school district which serves a 55 square mile area that has a total of 81 students and a annual expenditures of about $2,000,000. Lets see... that is $24,691 per student. I think it is time to consolidate this pipsqueak of a district into one that can provide more bang for the buck.
As far as the "Concert for Corruption" goes, I'll be surprised if the Micro-School gets a dime.
Oh... and by the way. Is anyone else tired of all the "charity" beer signs showing up all over town? I am - they look tacky and they make us - the citizens of Peru - look like a bunch of pumpkins.

Anonymous said...

I truly cannot believe the arrogance of this guy in the white shirt. Who in the heck does he think he his? Also the rec board should be embarrassed to come to a meeting this unprepared. Mr. White shirt accuses the city of the same thing the rec board is guilty of.....not being prepared. They had one month notice, yet they ignored the public property committee which has two elected officials that oversee them. They must know they have the support of someone else at city hall.

Anonymous said...

Who is the guy in the white shirt? Is that the pickleball ambassador? He is extremely condescending and arrogant. And the city is bending over backward to help him? Lord help us!

Anonymous said...

I think the guy handled himself well despite the fact that he has been called names and has had to listen to the nonsense for 3 years. In fact, he only wanted to get a popular recreation activity going in a public park that many enjoy. You think he was putting in a landfill in people's backyards. Yes, the final score is that the few neighbors objected to a game in a public park that is in their backyard. And those few were able to get the city to support moving the game to another park. I guess when you say ITS WHO YOU KNOW, the guy in the white shirt was the one that lost, they are moving the game out of the private public park for the benefit of those few who have objected. He isn't the one that's condescending.

Anonymous said...

The guy in the white shirt is indeed condescending and arrogant and he keeps referencing the terminology of "compromise". What I'd like to know is where and how have the pickleball players compromised with the so called 28th street neighbors? Have they ever even spoken to them? The rec board talked to the neighbors of other parks (i.e. Washington, Sunset, and even Centennial) before introducing activities (including horseshoes)? Did they speak to those at 28th street park before introducing this noisy game? It is my understanding that once again the ambassador, with the backing of the rec board president and secretary/treasurer (wife) got exactly what they wanted. And, once again what did the neighbors get in return? According to these videos it looks as though they were once again treated rudely, arrogantly, condescendingly, and that that was all they got. Where "IS" the compromise Mr. Ambassador????

Anonymous said...

9:27 Jan? or another pickleball player? or rec president?

Anonymous said...

If Mr. Ambassador has the diagram for pickleball, why doesn't he offer it up to the Rec Board so they can put temporary striping at Washington Park? I'm pretty sure I can get that information on the internet. He acts like it's a secret diagram that only he possesses. Condescending and arrogant!

Anonymous said...

And isn't it funny when ole Mr. White Shirt didn't get his way with the Public Property he marched right into the council meeting with his wife(rec board secretary/treasurer), rec board president and another rec board member. Sure does not look like compromise to me. Looks like whining, pouting, and crying and the council fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

Anonymous said...

The President of the Rec Bd speaks of having no diamonds north of shooting park road in Peru and that you have to go where you have to go. What specifically do you call those diamonds in Veterans Park? Veterans Park is north of Shooting Park and it is in Peru. Maybe maps should be supplied at meetings in Peru.
I also agree that Veterans Park is a ideal site for a pickle ball court as the blacktop skating rink is already there, which makes it a money saver and will not bother any home owners.

Anonymous said...

9:30 How did the pickleball players compromise? You are jesting with us indeed. The players compromised by removing a popular game from a public park that was a popular destination for the game of pickleball. They will be moving the game to Washington Park, thats more than a compromise. Should neighbors of the park get something in return for people from people that are using a public park. What else do they want next? Payment for the use of a public park, permission to use a park? Please the only arrogance is in the fact that a few neighbors control the use of the park. If that continues to be the case, I would encourage the city to sell the park or give the park to those property owners. Its not a park if you can't utilize it.

Anonymous said...

Many have agreed that Veteran's Park is the ideal location for pickleball except the ambassador and the players themselves. And, what they want they get.

10:10 Not only does the ambassador have a diagram but his wife does and she's the secretary/treasurer of the rec board.

Anonymous said...

I think the comment about Lostant Grade School is awful. They are trying to run a school. I do not have a problem with them trying to help the school. Do you?

Anonymous said...

12:21 Could you please explain how you came to the conclusion that the park was a popular destination for a popular game. Could you please define what constitutes popular in your mind? If those neighbors of 28th street controlled the park I am pretty sure they would not have allowed the tennis court to be constructed so close to their homes. Ask someone where the court was to be originally located according to the petition that was passed around the neighborhood. I can assure you it was not where it sits today.
So, unless we all stand in those neighbors shoes and have a noisy game so very, very close to our backyards we shouldn't pass judgement.

Anonymous said...

Anon 12:21 PM Yes the 28th St. Park is a public park and should continue to be a public park not turned into a private playground for a few.
Veterans Park is in a non residential area and is a ideal location for pickle ball as many have already written into the blog.
Very few are aware of the sport pickle ball and those who are are tired of the council spending time on it and wasting taxpayers money. What is the closest public and the closest private pickle ball courts.
Washington Park will be a huge failure for a location as soon as pickle ball interferes with LL Baseball.
Being that the LL baseball field has been in this location since the late 40's it will hold trump over Peru's latest and greatest.

Anonymous said...

Latest results 28th street neighbors prevail over the Prickle Ball Club with a shutout victory. Congratulations and thank you for saving all citizens from being exposed to this noisy and narrow minded group. Who is in physical possession of the Prickle Ball equipment we'd hate to see it sold at a upcoming moving sale or taken out of state.

Anonymous said...

5:38 and you are exactly right on the interference with LL baseball. The fielders will not know if the ping is from the bat or the paddle. The pitchers will not be able to concentrate and the batters will struggle.

Anonymous said...

There is a Pickleball court at the YMCA. I think the pickleball players should just go there to play. They don't need to have an outdoor court. That's what people are saying about the outdoor swimming pool. The YMCA has one, so why build a new one?

Anonymous said...

I would have to say after watching these people on the video that they have to be more annoying than the sound of the game.

Anonymous said...

2:08 - That school should be forced to consolidate with Oglesby or Streator. These tiny school districts are an unnecessary drain on our resources. We need legislation to force consolidation.

Anonymous said...

Being that the concert is held at the Peru Airport, and all services are provided by PPD, PFD and Peru Street Department employees the donation should be directed to a cause of Peru.
If the Cause is from LaSalle the concert should be held in LaSalle and LaSalle should cover the services as should Spring Valley, Lostant etc.

Anonymous said...

I AGREE WITH YOU
100% 11:12.

Anonymous said...

I think the airport is called the Illinois Valley Regional Airport. Doesn't that include La Salle, Spring Valley, Oglesby, etc.?

Anonymous said...

9:27 according to alderman Perez' Facebook post the recreation board approved moving it before the city approved it. The claim was to have PickleBall as part of summer camp for kids. Not sure bussing kids to north Peru to play PickleBall is smart. I have two children and I watch two others during the summer who all do summer camp. Crafts, tennis and t ball
If one decides to do PickleBall camp I'm sure not going to be running from one park to another. Washington park is central location for all these activities.

Anonymous said...

1:30 yes that is the official name of the airport, but the cities of LaSalle, Spring Valley and Oglesby don't pay for any manpower to work the concerts. I agree, Peru holds these concerts and pays for them, so the recipient of any money, (if there is any money donated) should be from Peru.

Anonymous said...

Einstein 1:30 The airport services the entire Illinois Valley area. It is used by many in the Illinois Valley. It is located and operated in Peru. Because of the location, Peru is handling the event. If the event was held in LaSalle, LaSalle would handle the event. Peru has a very professional group of public service employees, one of the best. If you have a event and proper planning you also can go through the various stages of planning to get your event approved by the community of your choice. Its a matter of energy, time, marketing to run a big event like these concerts. I would bet that 99% like the idea of a local concert. The format of the performers may not be enjoyable to all, some like rock, country,blues,etc. Country looks to be selling in today's market. Good luck and I respect the work of the promoters. Lets all hope for success and who knows, your favorite band may be playing soon.

Anonymous said...

The airport was started by Peru, located in Peru, and governed by Peru and is Peru's liability and is owned by Peru.
So I would say any fundraisers conducted at the airport should go to Peru.
A name does not create ownership.
The airport even though a money loser had always had a positive image in Peru until this administration and council voted upon joining with a private business and to remain on the financial losing end of the partnership.
If the landfill has been sold and it was under the ownership of Peru what was the selling price. I as one of the previous owners should be informed. For a long time I have paid $6.00/month on my city bill for a landfill and will be happy to see this come to a end. When and where was it advertised that this property was for sale and where are the profits from the sale going to be used? How much does Peru still owe on the Hydro Plant Or maybe it could be applied to lowering the debt accumulated for street resurfacing and the sunset of 5 years initially promised when Mayor Harl voted in a council tiebreaker to raise the sales tax 1/2%. These two debts could also be significantly lowered by the windfall legal gaming machines 5% city take, which amounts to $80,000/year. When in debt why do certain government officials look to create places to spend this money instead of lowering city debt? VOTES, VOTES, VOTES!

Anonymous said...

No money gets donated lol. Its schools so she can get her crony computer store to "sponsor" her donation of equipment. She gets to claim the inflated retail cost, and deduct it. The store gets to claim its markup as donation, and she barely pays wholesale. Its a sweet deal, getting in exchange free labor, sales, and pizza workers... and all the donated city labor and services so she can make her hundreds of thousands.All for the kids.Right.

Anonymous said...

The other cities in the Illinois Valley either tossed out or said no to the "Concerts for Corruption."

Peru Town Forum said...

2:42PM

Your 99% is definitely way off base, at the most I believe perhaps 25% of the people in Peru might support the concerts and the rest oppose or simply do not care what goes on in Peru.

Anonymous said...

Doesn't the promoter own property around the village of Dalzell? Why doesn't she use this property for her concerts?

Anonymous said...

9:57 - Because Dalzell told her to pack sand. They don't want "Concerts for Corruption" associated with their town.

Anonymous said...

On May 29th there was a Committee meeting as a whole in which the City Council went into closed session and tan came back to open session and voted on the sale of 44.7 acres. After approval this meeting was adjourned and the City Council meeting was opened.

What does the ordinance read as to a Committee Meeting of the Whole being legally capable of conducting business such as a sale of property. To be legal shouldn't the motions and vote been held during the regular city council meeting? From all appearances it appears that the council has not officially voted legally on the sale of the 44.7 acres, and the city still owns the it.

Anonymous said...

Found this information on the Pickle Ball Central website....the so called special tape is 2" wide and orange in color and for $16.00 you can turn a tennis court into a pickleball court, just like they do for the USA Pickleball Association National Tournament. Looks like duct tape to me. And also for $30.00 you can purchase EZ Court Lines that you can lay down on any surface and voila...you have a pickleball court.














Anonymous said...

Anon 10:32 Excellent legal points.

Anonymous said...

Update...for $5.99 you can purchase 1.5" tape. The players tournament in Stonecrest Florida used this tape and stated it worked perfectly.

Anonymous said...

The work on the Pickleball court at Washington Park has begun. So us citizens of Peru get stuck paying twice for this court for a few people who want to play. And by the way, people were playing tennis while this work was happening.

Anonymous said...

10:42 And don't forget this game was touted by Mr. White Shirt as portable, and Mrs. White Shirt stated that tennis is a dying sport. Both of these statements are fact.

Anonymous said...

Maybe Dalzell told her to pack sand but they are the ones with their heads in the sand. Hundreds of communities would love to have a concert and take in easy revenue at the same time. Forget the noise (music) the money will still be with the city the next day, after the noise is gone.

Anonymous said...

7:31 What money do you think the city is making from these concerts?

Anonymous said...

Anon 7:31 your thought escapes all logic. You know that 100's of communities would love to have a concert but yet you insist on having a concert in a community which the majority don't want one. Peru, as many of the recent causes have not received money for the concerts and Dalzell has never found reason to reconsider, As the man said you bought a farm and thats what you have - a farm. Simple but yet he understands logic!

Anonymous said...

7:31. You are joking, right? the concerts are a net loss for Peru. The only none making money is the Pizza Lady.

Anonymous said...

You can't be referring to the Pizza Lady who has that big beautiful home in the west section of Peru which is nicknamed "Concerts for a Cause Manner"?

Anonymous said...

7:31 Dalzell did not have their head in the sand. An informal survey taken at that time showed over 70 percent of Peru residents believed that these were charity events. Talk about head in the sand.
The money for the community is a severe net loss, the concerts provide great risk, the charity aspect is very minimal and the location was right next to a developed subdivision. Small local fundraisers out do the fund raising almost every month around here. There were many reasons besides noise that entered in to the decision. The residents effected expressed there concern, their leaders listened. Peru can do the same, and stay out of court. But my guess is they wont.

Anonymous said...

10:10 the majority is a few that are on th blog and make repeatative remarks about the concert. Nothing more.

Anonymous said...

12:40 that infomal survey must have been 3 out 4 residents living under your tent voted against the concert. I guess that is over 70%. And you can't hear the concert very well because the stage is facing north of the city. Charity has had the benefit of over $100,000 in recent years. And $20,000 went to the local pool. Any any other reason?

Anonymous said...

No it was 100 people asked what they thought the Concerts were? It was higher rate among people who had purchased tickets outside the Illinois Valley, and after reading all past headlines. It was taken by a consumer group learning about Concerts for a Cause, at gas stations on concert night.

And the Charity has been on hold for a few years. The amounts overstated and also coming from other groups, and other activities.

If I were their attorney, I would be advising them to continue changing their interview statements, put the true nature of the concert in all advertising, basically start being very clear with all consumers it is no charity or benefit concert, and donation is totally at the discretion of the promoter. If it is profitable enough they may get their donation.

Then I would tell them to stop potentially violating labor laws using unpaid workers under the guise of volunteering.

But she would never hire me. I am not local.

Anonymous said...

How could a concert be termed a Concert for a Cause if a designated charity receives no donation? The entire concept appears to be a scam realized by most.
How can a city government ethically participate with public facilities when the only benefactor is a private business owner?