The radio was making announcements to day that Ms Noonan has once again scheduled a concert for herself at the Peru Airport on July 13. The city has not voted on this at a city council mtg and the last heard was at the Public Works committee meeting where a city clerk said no concert has been scheduled.
So the mystery arrangement with the city is just that. We all know that a vote was not taken but evidently an "arrangement" was made with someone in this city. My question is "Who in this city is allowed to make arrangements for a private individual to use city property without approval of the council?"
"Who can make arrangements for a private individual to schedule a concert which requires the Public Works employees to work at the airport to set up for the concert, the Fire Department and the Police Department and Ambulance Service to be available and yes to provide their services?" As far as I know how those departments are paid with taxpayer dollars. The PPD will not be paid for all the time that is spent watching and directing traffic before and after the concert and in particular watching for drunk or impaired drivers after the concert.
We do all those so that someone can make a profit at our expense, time after time, year after year and then we wonder why people move away and the children don't return. What is the benefit to those who allow this?
There aren't enough pizzas made to make this right to the city and its residents.
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I wish Ms. Noonan would just invest in developing and constructing her very own concert venue. This would be a great venture for her to prove to her critcs and the entire community that her intentions are honorable and a concert venue would contribute tremendously to the local economy. Perhaps an outdoor venue similar to what Ottawa has planned. As long as public property is utilized for this Concerts for a Cause there will be controversy and suspicion of her motives and the fact that only a tiny portion of the proceeds make it to the chosen charities each year. Also, it is apparent the elected officials in Peru are unwilling or just incapable of participating in these concerts in a manner that informs and includes tranparency and honesty.
I wonder if the elected officials will be parking cars again this year? That was a pretty long couple of days for them last year.
I think it is pathetic that the city of Peru chooses to waste time, energy, money and especially respect for this city on this concert.
We elect people to work for the entire city and to spend our tax dollars wisely and instead this is what we are getting, a perfect example of what politicians do once elected. True representatives of the people they are not.
Additionally on the definition of a politician.
A seeker or holder of public office, who is more concerned about winning favor or retaining power than about maintaining principles.
we need leaders in Peru, not politicians. There is no shortage of drinking establishments in the Illinois Valley. It is an easy drive to Rockford and Peoria to see a rock or country act. The problems in the Illinois Valley do not include a lack of entertainment and booze. The problems in the Illinois Valley do include a lack of gainful employment. And DO NOT for one second try to imply that these concerts bring any type of reasonable economic activity or jobs to the area. They absolutely do not. At the very best, there is a boost in gas sales in Peru for one day and few motel rooms booked because the concert goers got SMASHED. Since almost everyone in attendance is from the local area, this is just shifting money from the local tavern to the concert for one day. A NET ZERO GAIN for TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN PUBLIC MONEY BEING SPENT!
No No No No No No No No No and No again. We don not need this. We do not want this. I do not like Corrupt Concerts for Political Causes. I do not like flushing money down the toilet. I do not like transportation infrastructure being used for a drinking party.
Today is May Day. Are Comrades Quinn and Obama parading the missiles down Lake Shore Drive to celebrate the people's victory over capitalism and the Great People's Socialist State of Illinois?
Just heard on the news that the State of Illinois is giving $100 Million to the Obabma Library in Chicago.
How many schools can we fund with $100 Million?
like it or not 6000 people vote to have these concerts here with their hard earned cash. If you don't like it, move to lasalle.
The 6000 sheeple don't actually realize that taxpayer money is being used to put this concert on. So I guess, everyone in Peru should get at least one free ticket and one free drink. We are paying for it one way or the other, why not let us in free. That way we are only fleecing the out of towners.
I don't really care about he concerts one way or another - so long as they fund themselves. Police should not provide security - private security guards should be used. A standby ambulance should be PAID for. It should not be conducted at the airport. City employees should not be used for temporary lighting, trash removal, parking, traffic control, or anything else.
GOVERNMENT IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ENTERTAINMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm betting she doesn't get any "charity" to work for her this year. After the fiasco with Peru Little League getting zero last year, I doubt anybody would be willing to work for nothing.
11:50. Welcome to the most corrupt state in America!
Last year it was definitely known that Public works was involved in the setup of the concert. They also were known to have taken trash barrels that may have come from parks and were hauled away after the concert the next day. No way no how should city employees be utilized for the benefit of this concert.
If city police do not provide traffic control on Plank Road, who is? Lets not forget that last year the robbery of Verizon and the accident that killed the police dog took place on the same day of the concert. Connection? Not directly but in a round about way, maybe.
Be quiet justin
Lois - you may be right. The gangbangers here about a big goings on and figure the local yokel cops will be busy elsewhere.
12:50 I thought the 6000 sheeple are mostly visitors pumpimg all this money in our economy? Seems you think it's half our population in town. And if you cut out the kids under twenty one, since there's drinking, must be an old folks section I missed. Maybe it was behind the port a potties.
So I bet I could get over lots more of your votes to come to a new strip club if I opened it up here. But wait, I thought votes were those things we do at the polling place?
You must be thinking of those green votes called dollars that all the folks in government like here in Peru. The more you have, the more you get from the city.
Local area meaning "The Illinois Valley" area. Its the same people that shop in our Golden Goose shopping district. There are very view people coming from the outside world. I mean really - who would want to come to a concert in Peru Illinois that has no seating, let alone assigned seating? No cover to get out of the rain or sun?
If the 6000 number is accurate, 80% or more are from LaSalle, Peru, Oglesby, Streator, Ottawa, Mendota, Spring Valley.
The first blogger suggested Ms. Noonan invest and develop a venue. She attempted that, choosing an extremely inexpensive piece of farmland poorly amazingly poorly suited for mass gatherings.
The actual business practice of building an Indoor or outdoor concert venue requires a great deal of planning and expense, which is why the actual concert venues in the Chicago area are very upset that she does this, and that Peru enables it. If it were small local acts, and crowds in the one thousand max range, it might be a different story.
I'm sorry but the safety, marketing and accounting trail she has leaves much to be desired. And I know someone will say no one has ever gotten hurt and the safety record is spotless. People who think like that have no concept of what outdoor concert series actually mean, particularly large top acts that draw people from outside the area.
People say there is no drug use, no injuries, blah blah. Its the only concert series in the world that has such a spotless record, which makes you wonder how all these perfect fans are found and all the people talking about the pot smell and drunks on facebook managed to show up to a different venue.
The city came within 20 minutes of possibly one of the worst disasters this area had ever seen with the Kid Rock debacle. It showed what can happen, not what will happen, and how dangerous getting bigger crowds at that airport can be. Kissing a lucky horseshoe or buying more insurance does not make anything safer.
Picking a suitable location and developing a real, well engineered concert venue costs a helluva lot, indoor or outdoor. The airport might be made suitable but the maximum safe crowd will not make enough money. Even with all the "volunteer" labor.
2:29 I take it your not a fan of reality?
Parks mowed again today but no weed trimming done again . plus I saw city workers picking up the trash ahead of the mowers . Isn't that their job ? I contract a mowing company to do my business and I don't go out before them to clean the yard . That's their job. Seems like this deal wasn't thought through all the way !
Just read in the paper - a well known local not for profit organization in Peru ".... will benefit from a Pub Crawl on Sunday."
As long as the local denizens consider this fun, Peru is doomed to remain in "Dog Patch USA" status. "Git ur man Sadie, Maryin' Scotty is on the way."
I see Sapienza wants to use gambling money to help defray cost for ivcc students tutition that live in Peru.
Socialist idea for sure why should Peru tax money be used for ivcc students and grants this is terrible idea. We should use money to create paying jobs and not for education so students can move from Peru.
Sapi stop tooting your horn...we are not an education funding machine.
What was the Kid Rock debacle referenced above?
8:04 Pm
The money he wants to use is the 5% the city receives from the legal gambling machines in certain taverns in Peru. This is done thru the state of Illinois. To give to all would be spreading the funds too thinly according to the story.
Sapienza does not have a clue! Recommendation should be that he sticks to his aldermans' responsibilities but he is so inefficient no one wants him there anymore either. Nothing but a Harl vote.
It sounds to me that the Sappy Scholarship would just be another perk for aldermen to get votes. Just like the summer jobs.
He/she was referring to how close they cam to being hit by a major storm or needing a lightning evacuation in driving rain. Too many people, poor exit capability.
That place has one little road, and lots of mud and fence. Big crowds have nowhere to go but to try and get to their cars through mud and a maze of fence.
It is an airport. It should not be used for such silly things like this.
why is Peru so preoccupied with entertainment instead of working?
When an airport becomes a Playground, it is no longer a needed municipal airport. I know that numbers will be put out to justify these uses but when we allow the uses we do, which are not valid, it says something about our priorities in this city.
And by playground, not only do I mean the concerts allowed for private ventures but also the number of flights that are private in personally owned planes. Wonder if they all file a flight plan and does the airport list and track every plane that takes off and lands. It appears that the airport gets more specialty care and regard than any street, park, infrastructure, building or water concerns. Why?
I think we should have square dancing in the intersection of I-80 and Route 251. We should block off the River to commercial traffic and use it for pontoon boats and floating bars. We should block off the rail lines and use them for kiddy rides and drinking excursions. We should outlaw cars and trucks and only allow golf carts on the side streets. Route 6 should be barricaded to all traffic and horse and buggy rides installed.
All of this is just as silly as turning over a Federal and State funded air transportation hub to a Pizza Parlor so they can put on a band concert and sell drinks.
We should be developing that airport as part of the transportation infrastructure for the Illinois Valley. We should seek out charter operators to base themselves here. We should seek out corporate jet operators to base themselves here.
Instead, we want to plan parties.
Peru is doomed as long as crap like this remains a priority.
Good point Lois the airport does get more specialty care and regard than any street, park, infrastructure, building or water concern. Why?
How many citizens drive on Peoria Street every day in comparison to the number of local citizens who use the airport in the same amount of time and how much money is spent on each?
Apples and oranges. The airport is funded through different pots of state and federal money.
Contact Congressman Kinzinger's office to express your concerns about lack of accountability to the tax payer funds at Illinois Valley Regional airport. Unfortunately Congressman Kinzinger has been unconcerned with achieving accountability in regard to Airport Improvement Program grants.
Perhaps if more people contact his office to express their disdain; Congressman Kinzinger will actually take "time off" from his redundant radio and news interviews and actually focus on issues pertaining to his district.
Kristy Mrowicki
The airport is operated like a private club. The local pilots violate FAA regulations every week, buzzing low over residential neighborhoods that could never be considered any reasonable approach or take off. They also have stunt pilots training and banking over residences, breaking the FAA regulations for stunt flight all the time now.
Peru practices home rule like it is a big Frat house. The airport is a playground just for the "in" crowd.
They justify the airport for "business" when under 10 percent of the take offs and landing are estimated business. Its a big thing to puff your chest about, and a whole lot of nothing. The recent crash of the single engine plane could as easily have been into homes or the mall, while these local yokel pilots just do whatever the hell they want. Regional hub my but, you are an hour away from real airports all around you. It's NOT 1950 anymore and the planes don't leave of trail of dashes on a map anymore. It should never have had an expansion, should have been shut down.
We should hang Cow Bells from the lamp posts downtown.
Maybe the City can throw a Hoedown in Washington Park. We could put hay bails all over the place and hire a real square dance band. People would come from tens of miles to attend that. We could have all the Aldermen do a skip to my Lou dance. Maybe even have some tip boards and a beer garden.
I'm not from this area originally and when I moved here I was surprised to find illegal gambling in all the taverns. I've always wondered why do the police allow it when they know darn well it's going on?
Home Rule has nothing to do with the Airport.
Now the airport bashing starts. The airport is an asset and should be treated as such. We need to promote it along with our other transportation assets in order to bring in new manufacturing, warehousing, and transportation business / industries to the Illinois Valley.
We need one unified voice for the county and the concentration should be on INDUSTIAL not RECREATION.
Referring to the home rule mentality. The idea that we are Peru, we do it our way, we do what we want, we do it different, if you don't like it leave.
It's true that home rule does not mean an airport should be able to do whatever it wants. But, like all things Peru, they push it to the limit. Nothing even gets their attention but lawsuits and investigations.
So many cry babies, so little time. I find it funny that the same group of people who want to attract things to the area are so quick to boot them out. Wake up people. If the concerts aren't here, they will go somewhere else, another municipality will welcome them with open arms if it puts them on the map. Just because you don't want them here doesn't mean they cease to exist. No wonder there is a massive age gap in this community, the old people can't do anything productive except complain.
The Pizza Lady has tried all the local communities and they sent her packing. All except Peru.
I thought Peru was already on the map? You need to get that new fangled google 5:39!
Why exactly would another city welcome them? Whats the benefit?
City expense
High Liability
No increase in tax revenue (check the numbers they don't change those weekends)
Fund leakage out of the area (the band and the Chicago firms get the majority of your bucks)
Fraud potential (unless when they move they just start calling themselves plain old concerts)
Safety issues
Massive amounts of government time
Sounds like most cities would just jump at the chance. Wake up 5:39. There is an age gap. Babies like you who want to drink and party and be entertained, and older people who would rather their government get factories and businesses that pay a living wage.
Of course, I am sure you think we are gomna be the new Nashville or Vegas, but there only a few folks who get theirs every concert.
Don't mistake people ready to fight for real progress and real rights for "crybabies".
Anon 11:52AM No, this is not comparing apples to oranges. I pay state and federal taxes as well as city taxes. A tax is a tax no matter who is collecting it. Possibly it would be best to only have a federal tax and all funding to be drawn from it. Than people would get a true meaning of tax money. As taxes are being collected and distributed today the only true comparison is illegal money laundering.
7:29 - you are when you say that Peoria Street is more deserving than the airport. They are funded with different money.
2:00 PM - Please sight the "FAA Regulations" that are being broken by users of Peru's Airport.
I think the "buzzing of residential areas" is actually crop dusters. A legitimate and legal activity.
The pilots that practice aerobatics are also doing so legally.
Face it. You just don't like the fact that the airport exists because you think there are better things to do with the money. Maybe so, maybe not. However, it is there and we need to maintain it. And we need to exploit it to attract true economic development.
Right now, the ONLY thing Peru cares about is sales tax revenue. The could not give a hoot in hell about TRUE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
One way to get rid of the crop dusters is to encourage industrial development on the land! Once the corn subsidies go away, this might be possible.
8:17 I can reassure you that those planes that are "buzzing residential areas" are not crop dusters. They are indeed buzzing over our homes and it's becoming more frequent as time passes.
Anon 9:45 PM No, they are not funded with different money. 7:29 has taken government funding down to its simplest and truest explanation. "A tax is a tax no matter who is collecting it to pay it out or how it is dived out."
The airport and Peoria Street are not funded with different money. They are funded with your money, my money and everyone elses money and no matter what government division collects and pays it out it is provided by us and sadly enough through the means of "kicking the can down the road" the upcoming generations and those not even born yet.
Personally I find a lack of economic intelligence in those liberal spenders who do not realize and or do not acknowledge this.
How many years has the Peru Airport been in existence? How much money has been funneled into this airport from day 1 up to now. Why was it developed and is it filling this reason. Is it worth spending more money on? These are simple business questions that most corporations could answer immediately if the airport was their responsibility.
Has anyone from the Peru Government ever answered them?
Has the city government ever answered any questions or does it always live under the "HARL ORIDANCE" OF THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT NOT A QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION.
Mayor Harl, truthfully if some of the questions asked of you would have been answered Peru would not be in the situation it is today, nor would you and many other individuals be.
I see that there is another "committee as a whole meeting" scheduled for Monday. What I don't understand is the proposed agenda for this meeting. In my opinion it is not an agenda. There is nothing specific listed to be discussed. A prime example of that was the last meeting which only lasted 1/2 hour and we fumbled to find a topic to discuss. These meetings are a good idea but the implementation is wrong.
8:17 I didn't post without consulting the FAA and two Aviation experts. The aerobatics are NOT to occur without a major altitude cushion, and they are NOT to do the banking over residential areas. They have been videotaped.
They do not maintain the 1000 feet cushion... And many of the local hanger pilots fly over dense populations below altitude. Even if they claim sparse population, they need 500.
They have also been taped. Crop Dusters are also not supposed to fly over residential areas below altitude limit. But people rarely complain.
People don't want to sue Peru, but they are so deaf to any complaints you really have to. They don't act like a city, more a frat house.
I am not against the airport. I am against recreational pilots pretending they are flying around like forty years ago.
Soon I will be starting a blog to share all the documents, emails, correspondence, etc. which I have accumulated in the past 2 1/2 years regarding Airport Improvement Program funding.
Since Congressman Kinzinger also refuses to request accountability for these federal funds, it is imperative his constituents review the accumulated information which the Congressman declined to acknowledge.
Fun Fact: Since Attorney Schweickert conferenced with the Obama transition team, Director Shea of the Illinois Division of Aeronautics, and Engineer Long from the FAA in December 2008 (invoice will be posted); over $5.5 MILLION TAX PAYER dollars alone have been spent on Illinois Valley Regional Airport.
I realizer per one of Congressman Kinzinger's many Sunday Morning TV appearances (ABC ThisWeek) he completed an informational "quiz" that his passion for flying is something he could not live without (I will post that document also. It is disheartening Congressman Kinzinger allows his passions to surpass his duties US the taxpayer.
Kristy Mrowicki
ya, in theory you are right. Tax money is tax money. Now, lets get back down on planet Earth. The money received for the airport is not fungible. Meaning, it can't be mixed in and used for something else. It is either used for the airport or nothing.
So, getting back down to planet earth - the airport is just one asset in a possible economic development pie. I can't believe how some people are so obtuse when it comes to this. Maybe because the truth does not match their concocted belief. Your version of the story would have us stop funding the lock and dam system on the Illinois river because people water ski.
So, get of your horse. The airport is here, it will stay here, and it should never be used to host BS concerts.
Now what we need are leaders that are smarter than a bag of hammers to start attracting industry. To do this, we need to give them a reason to come here. One way would be to reduce the corporate tax rate in Illinois to less than 7 percent. Locally, we can zero out the property taxes for property in industrial zones. Peru could greatly reduce the cost of electricity and water to industrial property.
The airport is only one piece - but it is an important piece.
11:33 - your facts about the rules are correct. However, you are not telling the truth about what is actually happening. I live just south of the airport - what you are describing is NOT happening. The crop dusting and aerobatics practice is happening well within the established rules. Landings and take offs from the facility are being conducted within established safety rules. The only dangerous thing I have seen at the airport, besides the concerts, was the commercial air liner that had to make an emergency landing a few years ago.
I'll try to make this simple for you 645; get a petition going for people who don't want the concerts and see how quickly it's overwhelmed by people who do. Majority rules.
11:33 I believe you are calling me a liar about the flights. I do not like that.
I have over a dozen witnesses and video. The flights below both 500 feet and 1000 feet have been documented for several years.
The aerobatics practice has only recently begun, and they are to train over the airport and unoccupied land only. Some pilots seem to follow that rule pretty well, only fudging it a bit on banking during steep angles, and flying upside down high over homes. But they are NOT to practice below 1000 feet, and never over homes. Last weekend , one did maneuver and practice directly overhead homes, while the Newstrib was gushing over the pretty WW2 planes instead saying, hey should we be having tip to tip formations right over populated areas ( tight formation flying is also strictly prohibited over homes ).
But no accident happened so it must be ok. Idiots.
These people have no problem with businesses flying in and out, or life helicopters, or even respectful recreational pilots. But most would have a problem with stalls and barrel rolls anywhere near their kids.
When I said I had video and witnesses and video. Did. The next thing some idiot will say is then see them or prove it. Can't anyone simply ever say sorry, we are wrong, we will correct it. No it always has to be someone like you, saying EVETYTHING is fine, nothing to see here, conspiracy, blah blah blah.
The individuals who document and record such events truly can give a rats ass whether you or anyone else believes them here on the blog. We just want the few individuals with common sense to put a stop to it. The manger over there is no idiot. He does not need to be sued to make sure all hangered pilots know the rules and follow them strictly.
People who are from out of local area flying in and taking off... Well you can't blame the airport if they break the buzz rules on stupid tight approaches. But the local pilots know to climb and level off before banking over the mall or other populated areas, and to fly high and bank slowly into the approach. They are just lazy pilots who don't give a crap about anyone but themselves.
2:30 Thanks for making it simple for me.
I'll make it simple for you too. Don't push it. I don't do petitions.
The majority rules as to who gets elected. The majority voted in the people who made the rules that these clowns mock. The majority elected the leaders who let it go on. And you can fool all the people some of the time. But you can't fool all the people all the time.
Pride goes before the fall. I have never see a prouder group.
3:23
"Don't push it. I don't do petitions"
I'll take that as your admittal of defeat. Keep whining about the concerts. They aren't going anywhere.
1:24Pm to M, 1:24PM to Mars If you think the airport is such a important piece of your so called developmental pie and we have it why is the pie such a failure. Similar to your coffee and kool aid very, very bitter. If it was not such a failure there never would have been a thought of making it a concert playground. It is known more as a 2 foot thick runway of concrete Woodstock than for being a airfield.
3:02 - you are right. I am calling you a liar.
Check out the LaGrotto facebook page to see the performers for the next Concerts for a Profit.
It's really quite funny and ironic that one of the acts last name is an actual description of what these concerts are, a "SWINDLE"!
That's funny.
Home Rule was voted in under Mayor Bakers Administration in the 1970's and was not change until somewhere around 2009-2010 to Home Cooking during Mayor Harls Administration.
4:36 well, as I said , I dislike being called a liar.
But I am telling the truth. I will not call you a liar, as I am sure you believe what you said, living south of the airport. But you did not stand in the yard and hold the recorders, as I did.
And can also say once more, I could not care less what you think. I know what I saw.
And the pilots also know.
Businesses and personal taxes can be audited. Fill out forms on the IRS website. They will audit if you have a reason why you think they should audit. You can be annonomous. You also receive 30% I believe of what the IRS receives from findings on the audit if you are the one who does the report on the IRS website.
Why do people on here just continue to make stuff up? This is crazy. 8:34? You just made that up. Completely false. My favorite part is how you can be anonymous and still get 30 percent. I think I will go into the "have the IRS audit everyone I know" business. Lol.
7:51: no you are not telling the truth. You don't like the airport, so you are making up infractions. If you where telling the truth, you would simply contact the FAA in Chicago and complain. They have RADAR that covers the local area and they would be able to tell if aircraft where breaking the rules.
The IRS is not part of the government. They are a private contractor.
Anon 8:34 Are you referring to those involved in the Peru Ghost payrolls?
10:09 Sure, the radar is all seeing and covers a small plane buzzing 200 feet over our houses in the middle of nowhere. I do not dislike the airport. I do not dislike a vast majority of the pilots.
I want them to stop weekend joyrides too low over houses. I want them to keep the aerobatics over 1000 and away from homes. Thats all.
Not everyone who complains here is lying, or hates Peru. But I do get fed up with them. Now you can call me a liar again and tell all the folks that all things regarding the airport are perfect and no pilots break the rules.
Make sure you tell them about the magic radar plotting cessnas at 300 feet over homes or the ww2 bomber buzzing the mall. 1000 feet is pretty high up. Just tap those altimeter guages and make sure they are working, ok?
The IRS most certainly is part of the government. Their employees are government employees who get government benefits and pensions.
About 75% of what people post as "facts" or "the law" here are pure fabrications.
I think if somebody actually did an investigation of flight safety around our airport, they would find it quite satisfactory.
We need to promote the airport as an a business asset. I think an obtainable goal would be to double the non-recreation aviation traffic. Wouldn't it be great if we had business jets landing and taking off every day? That would mean business is being conducted and economic development taking place.
Your problem is not with the airport. The Peru airport is not controlled and the airspace outside of the "pattern" is not controlled. Your problem is with the pilots. The City of Peru and the Airport management have no jurisdiction. You need to report the offending aircraft to the FAA.
From the FAA Web Page:
"The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is the government agency responsible for aviation safety. We welcome information from citizens that will enable us to take corrective measures including legal enforcement action against individuals violating Federal Aviation Regulations (FAR). It is FAA policy to investigate citizen complaints of low-flying aircraft operated in violation of the FAR that might endanger persons or property."
So, if you have your ducks in a row, report it to the Sherriff's Office to have it on record then call the FAA with your evidence. Remember to get the tail number from the aircraft. Call the Flight Standards District Office (West Chicago / DuPage) at 630-443-3100.
The FAA has all kinds of information on how to report unsafe aviation activities.
10:09. I don't believe the blogger is making that up regarding the IRS audits. If a person is a so-called whistleblower regarding informing the IRS of a business that is corrupt on their tax returns and the IRS does an audit I've also heard the whistleblower gets a percentage of what the IRS receives from the business after the audit. I actuall took the time to call a friend who has been a CPA (certified public accountant) for 40+ years and was told this is true.
10:00 PLEASE INFORM YOURSELF! YOUR ARE DEAD WRONG. GO TO ASK.com. Ask this question! DOES A PERSON WHO IS A WHISTLEBLOWER TO THE IRS REGARDING A BUSINESSES TAX RETURNS RECEIVE A PERCENTAGE OF FINDINGS? After you read the truth and inform yourself, come back on here and blog an apology to the blogger that you blogged to telling them they weren't telling the truth. Everybody who participates on this forum should go to ask.com and ask the question.
To 446 may1. Not a fan of you is all justin :)
Thanks for the steps, 10:56. I really domt want to have to report the guys when they could just look up the rules and keep from flying ober the houses. Believe it or not, I don't like to call the police on people.
But I am sure you are right, Chuck could not post the rules in the hangers and remind the pilots to be good neighbors. After all, the airport has no jurisdiction , the city is without blame.
If you do like Kristy or Perez, you get slammed for going to the AG or FBI. if you don't file a legal complaint, get out binoculars to get the number, and file charges with the sheriff, well then you are a "liar" and a conspiracy theorist.
Whatever happened to just treating others with respect and using common sense? Avoid things like placing a pickleball court next to someones Kitchen, or flying your bombers and stunt planes over people and kids. Just don't be a total ass and people do not need to take such steps.
Typical elitist. Either file a complaint with the FAA and put your name on it, or stop complaining. It is not airport's fault, it is the pilot's fault. Turn them in or stop your bellyaching.
Most private pilots pride themselves on safely operating their aircraft and staying within the guidelines and established rules regarding noise, altitude, and attitude. You can believer me when I say they know the rules and don't need to be "reminded to be a good neighbor." Most would not jeopardize their license over petty stunts like buzzing a neighborhood to show off.
So, this conversation tells me one of two things is happening. Either the pilots are operating legally and someone on the ground is being oversensitive and does not understand the rules or the pilots are reckless and deserving of reprimand. After all, if you saw somebody in a car constantly ignoring a stop sign or driving 40 miles per hour on a side street, would you suggest putting a sign in their garage to remind them of the law, or would you wright down their license plate number and call the police?
5:16 May 4th Your last paragraph is the epitome of how we should behave as adults. It's too bad that many refuse to follow the golden rule and do unto others as they would have others do unto them. Thank you for having common sense and respect for others. It's just too bad that many only care about themselves.
There was a plane above the boat I was on on the illinois river no more than 50 feet (not higher than the top of the trees on both sides of the river. Between spring valley and Hennepin on the river. note: there was no search and rescue happening. This plane was following the river above the boats on the river. I would have to say that the pilot of this plane was not following aviation regulations. Flying too low? My guy feeling at the time felt like the pilot was purposely doing this to scare people or was showing off. My opinion. We were absolutely shocked this pilot was doing this. It actually was scary. This was within the last 4 years. This is no joke or lie, other people saw it happening. Responsible pilot? Irresponsible pilot? Flight plan? Flying along the river over recreational boats? Aviation rules/regulations?
I saw a car on Interstate 80 this morning weaving in and out of traffic at about 90 miles per hour. This was between Peru and Ottawa. It looked like she was showing off to her passenger. Responsible Driver? Irresponsible vehicle operator? Late for Work? Weaving in and out of cars and trucks? Rules of the road? This is not a joke or a lie, other people saw it also. I was absolutely shocked that the driver was doing this. It was actually scary.
12:38 PM
Most people have cell phone and I would be surprised if someone did not get her license number or at the least a description of the car and location and call 911 to get in touch with the police.
I think it was sarcasm based on the 11:39 entry.
The Illinois State Police occasionally use chartered aircraft to fly over boats on the river trying to identify drug smugglers.
It was a recreational plane my friend. The way in which it was being piloted was in a goofing off manner.
Thank you again for your posts. I always get a good laugh when I read these comments. As for 1:33 the sheeple comment is at the very least disrespectful to the community. Your ignorant and mindless comments are exactly the reason why so many people get a good chuckle out of this blog! Keep up the good work!!
7:41 You left out one option. The Pilots do not know the rules or care about them, and are counting on the fact that the " Elitists" ( the use of that term showed me all I needed to know about the great pilot defender blogger lol), WON'T call the police or FAA. Most of the true Illinois Valley Elite ( and I use that term VERY loosely) count on the fact that people will be intimidated by them and never fight back.
Do you honestly think that people who own planes out there don't have a little bit more claim to the derogatory elitist word? Plane ownership is still pretty low as a per cent of population. And I am sure many do take pride in their knowledge. But there are stunt pilots flying too low, almost at ground level. And regular housed pilots for years have been below 1000 on non approach and take off, over densely populated ground, by FAA definition. Happens all the time.
The stunt pilots push it to the limit, banking over property, following the strict rule of the law most days. But come on, how lazy does a pilot have to be to not find un populated farmland around here and not subject homeowners to a damn airshow in their backyard every weekend?
The true sign of the complete ass around here is their call. "If you don't like it move. If you don't call the Police it aint no Crime. If you dont put your name out there for us to harass and try to intimidate, quit bellyachin"
Peru is becoming known for a knew phrase besides Leader of the Valley.
It's sue us. We dare ya.
Most of us try to put up with it, without taking legal action. If you see a drunk on the road, or someone speeding all the time, yes you call the police. But this issue is much more select, affecting a few highly qualified pilots who simply should know better and act better. Not everyone wants to sue or get a pilots license taken away. Some of us like our local neighbors and just wish they would act like grown ups and not selfish kids.
As far as the comment to quit bellyaching. I have the perfect response.
No.
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