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This article is misleading to say the least. From what I understand it is not possible to dissolve any township in Illinois unless and until the State Legislature passes laws or amends existing laws that allow it to happen. Currently, from what I understand it would take a change to state law to allow any township to be desolved. I don't think the article is telling the whole story here. There is a lot more to doing a way with a township than a vote by a city council. This is just wishful thinking. Sorry.
Here's the truth of the matter here. This can only happen when the boundaries of the township are "exactly" the same as the city. That is why it was possible in Bellville as the city and township have the same boundaries. Therefore, it cannot happen in Peru to "dissolve" Peru Township because Peru Township's boundaries extend far outside the corporate limits of Peru. There would need to be a change in laws in Springfield to enable anything other than exact boundaries and Madigan will never allow it in any way, shape, or form.
We can only hope that this band of the promisors are thrown out of government. Its was only a few years ago that the reformers were going to lower their salaries and taxes. As we all predicted they are still getting those elected salaries for the 20 minutes of non work each month. The reformers? And soon a few of them will be looking for office as Peru City elections are right around the corner. Let's hope that their experience working on padding their pockets work won't make it close to 4th and Fulton. We can't afford that slippery crew of opportunity paycheck officials. And to those who believe that the township cannot be abolished are the same ones who retain those taxpayer paychecks. It can be done, it has been done and it should be done. Boundaries are simple, and state law will has outlined how it will be done.
12:48 PM, June 06, 2016 - The county must change to a commission form and all townships within the county need to be dissolved. That is the current law.
Nobody cares about the Township. The Zombies that run it are a running joke. If it gets on the ballot you may see a 70% vote to disband. Its a credit to the work of the greed of those in office.
the purpose of the township government is to create forms to be filed with the county government that nobody will ever read. they also create jobs by taking money from other people and hiring their friends.
To the blogger who posted about the r c owing money: Could you please explain who or what r c is, who you foia'd information from, and what town are you referencing? Thank you for explaining (if you do).
When this does happen. Will you be the only official to file suit against the voters response to dissolve the Township Republic? Good luck in keeping that gravy train. Get out the office furniture before the voters take over. I would like a shot at the huge truck that is 5 years old and has 40 miles on the odometer.
11:52 Your banking on Madigan. I would advise you to find different friends. The Madigan machine is rusting away. Everybody close to Magic Mike seems to be in trouble.
the ottawa "working men" did nothing but prove why unemployment is so high around here. come to think of it, why weren't the "working men" actually working? because their union bosses sold their jobs up the river a long time ago.
3:20 AM, June 08, 2016 - Some of the people where vulgar, rude, disrespectful and downright thuggish. One man ran toward the governor with a wild look in his eyes. He was lucky not to have been pummeled by the security detail. I've read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights hundreds of times - nowhere does it give anyone the right to protest like that. Another man verbally accosted State Senator Rezin calling her vulgar names. Every one of these thugs needs to have their picture posted so their friends, relatives, parents, and employers know just what kind of person they are.
Why is 28th Street and 30th Street being resurfaced? Neither road needed it. Marquette needs it more than 28th or 30th. I'm sure there are other roads in the 1st ward that need it more than 28th and 30th. Why isn't 10th Street by Washington Park to at least Pike being done? That road is like a washboard. Who is choosing these roads to be done because they aren't doing a very good job.
The township road district should be dissolved. There is absolutely NO NEED for that road district. Turn all 6 or 7 miles over to Peru. Government waste! Ask the twp supervisor why the twp salaries aren't going down. Time for a new supervisor. Election is next year, so if you truly want to get rid of government waste, start with getting rid of the township supervisor.
Those peaceful protestors reminded Gov. Rauner how we coalminers mean business. After that display count on nothing for LaSalle county for the next several years. He will let the coalminers run their own world to the ground. When all the jobs leave, he will remind all of the business we threw out!
12:23 Confused. The RC personally borrowed or the township borrowed? Why would the township owe the city? or borrow from PFed. If it's personal, it's none of our business. If it's for the township, yes, it's our business and should be posted on the township web site. township website doesn't even post who rc is. website needs major updating.
If this was purely a symbolic gesture for Bellevue, I would like for our City Council in Peru to do the same and send a message to the County Board that Peru is willing to take over the 2 roads that are adjacent to the city and take care of them and thus eliminate the need for a entity called the Peru Twp.
I believe La Salle Twp is entirely within the city of La Salle but I believe that La Salle has a good record of actually helping the indigent in their boundaries with township aid. I wonder what the thoughts are on that twp.
If a referendum were put on the ballot for Peru Twp to be eliminated, it would win overwhelmingly.
I also hear that someone in the Republican Party might be challenging the current Peru Twp. Supervisor at the next election.
Maybe our legislature could be encouraged to allow individual cities make their own decisions as to whether they need to maintain the current twp structure within their own boundaries.
There is no money owed to the city of Peru by Peru Township. Somebody with a grudge is throwing crap in hopes that it might stick. I suspect the rumor-monger wants his job back. Too bad that will never happen.
Those with the recent fascination with the Republican party are not fooling anyone by running for Twp. office. The new RINOs are making everyone in town snicker at the new strategy. Its wasn't too long ago that a few were elected to office to make a change. We all know the result. No change, same paycheck. Changing colors or mascots won't fool anybody.
I agree that a referendum would favor dissolving the township in a big way. Its a vote of non confidence to those who run the township not the government body. Sorry, sometimes you have to burn down the government unit to save the Republic.
If the Republican you mentioned is someone who just switched sides. Whoever that is the Republican Party will be hard pressed to support a RINO (Republican in name only).
People will see right through fake banter and all the promises.
I do believe that the Township needs to dissolved and let the City take over.
Peru Township tax bill is .002 lower that the City of Peru. That's all folks. that's less than 2/10ths of a percent. Are you getting the same service? streets, police, fire, parks, and more? Either Peru City needs to raise your taxes or Peru Township need to close.
The Township Road District is its own government body - independent of the actual township. It shares some of the same administrative employees and the Township Clerk also acts as the Road District Clerk. The Township Road District is run by the Township Highway Commissioner.
If you look at the tax bill you just received in the mail, you will see a separate line item for the Township Road District.
The Township Road District is supposed to give a portion of its road tax to help maintain city streets. You will see this as a line item in the City of Peru budget. It is called "Road and Bridge Tax." For FY 17 they are budgeting $152,500. Again - this comes from the Township Road District. The remainder of the Township Road District levee is spent on the other roads - most notably in the vicinity of the small development west of Oglesby. I don't think they take care of the side streets in that development - only the main roads that run around that area.
If the Township Road District is disbanded - which could happen if the City of Peru took control of the remaining few miles of Shooting Park Road west of Sycamore Lakes and the few blocks of Pulaski Street - the other roads would be automatically transferred to the County. They don't want them and would raise taxes to compensate for maintaining them. Peru would also lose out on the $150K or so per year that they get from the Township Road District.
I don't know how the administrative costs of the Township Road District compare - but to the City of Peru, this is "free money" that they would need to make up. I think in the long run - taxes would increase if the Township Road District is disbanded.
I strongly believe that there is way too much administrative salary in the township. Board trustees for what??? 10 people deciding what? How to shovel a sidewalk and 4 miles of road? Hell, it could probably be outsourced to a guy with a pickup and snow blade. The road maintenance could very easily be picked up by the city or the county. It is my understanding that the local roadways are already covered and maintained by the city. One of the reasons this country has failed us by having so many levels of management. Just look at City Hall. An assistant, for an assistant, for an assistant. Why not just hire 1 qualified individual? Now, I have seen that an ex city employee was hired by the township for the purpose of mowing grass? How much grass is there at that building? If this is true, these are examples of exactly why the few things done by the township could be transferred to county or city. I support removing the townships. One less level of high salaries and outrageous double dipped insurance and pension is a total waste. Just look at those working in the townships. Already have full time jobs elsewhere. These jobs are nothing more than bigger retirement checks and they know it.
The facts are that the majority of the taxes go toward the elected officials on the Township Board. Is that right? What public official makes $28,000 a year for 20 minutes of work once a month-----the township clerk. What public official makes $45,000 a year administrating very little public aid? What public official makes another $45,000 a year for supervision of a few miles of road work?
These are all jobs that have no actual skills. All political party appointments used as rewards for their services in helping others win elections. The good ole boy network. The funny part of this story is that they run within a party designation that has no party platform. They run in party name only. Talk about a broken system. This one is one for the ages. Have you ever gone to the township for aid? Would you be better off if they were democrat or republican? The answer is none of the above. There is very little aid given. Are you better off having a Republican or Democrat plow your road? That is one example of the ill advise Township structure. Save yourself embarrassment from your reasons to keep this taxpayer scam going any further. If you are part of the group help yourself by getting a lifejacket and get on board with elimination of the township. Don't be surprised if a few of your township buddies follow the course to save their own political life's.
10:56 AM, Your skirt is showing and your vendetta against the people who outsmarted you once is obvious. The funniest part of your rambling is that they are about to outsmart you yet again. The majority of current elected officials at Peru Township would not be disappointed if Peru Township were dissolved. I know this because I know most of them and I helped them get elected. However, since it is highly unlikely that Peru Township will ever be dissolved it makes better sense to get a clue and elect township officials who will continue to reduce the size of Peru Township and the cost to run it. The reformers that were elected in 2013 have made many cuts in waste and operational costs and they will be voting to cut the salaries of elected officials before summer is out. If you were smart enough to read the Peru Township meeting minutes you might actually learn the facts about the character of the people you are lying about. The truth about you is you are envious of the people you rant about because they succeeded in running you or your friends out of office in 2013 and you're still sore about it. They are smarter than you and your crew of misfits and they have already outsmarted you before the next township election has even happened.
10:56 AM, June 09, 2016 - the Road and Bridge Tax only pays for the Township Road District employees... the Commissioner and one or two others, I think they are part time.
You are mixing up the government entities again.
I am in full support of disbanding the township and the township road district. But.... the devil is in the details. The "work" they do is still required and will be transferred to another government entity to take care of. And they will raise their tax to pay for it. Most significantly would be the road district. The City of Peru would absorb a mile or two which is no big deal from a maintenance point of view. But they would loose their portion of the Township Road Tax which is used for city streets. That is a $150K per year loss to the City of Peru and they will need to make that up.
Then there is the tax assessor. When we disband the township, the County Treasurer will need to hire somebody to keep the assessments up to date - right now this data is fed to him via the Township Assessors Office. So, they will need to hire some people to keep this up to date. For a County the size of LaSalle County, I bet it would take six or seven people to do the work. Six to Seven professionals with real estate licenses. They would probably be unionized and have a pension with full medical and dental.
12:48 We have been hearing about these wage decreases since the last election and nothing has been done. The truth of the matter isn't the trustee wages its the wages of the supervisor, road commissioner, clerk, tax assessor. And the benefits. You had the ability to change and have done nothing. Yes, you did a number on me and others! You won. The problem is that now you have to pay the piper for promises not kept. No matter what you say and when you say it, nobody will respond to keep the money tree growing. Its over and many of us will get the last dance.
1:58 Why would anybody care about road money going to the city. That point is not worth the taxing power. And eliminate the road commissioner? Its easy. The tax assessor? I bet the county has the software to take all the files and keep them updated. I doubt you need any additional jobs or union help. And real estate licenses? Be serious. Worry about those wages and benefits. The township has medical insurance, pensions. Why would they need a union, they vote on their own wages and benefits.
The proof it that those positions do get those outlandish wages and benefits. And they still hire part-time workers to cut grass, plow roads. Can you believe they still need to survive on your tax bill?
3:46 PM, June 09, 2016 - I guess you really don't know what goes into tax assessment. To be the township assessor, you are required to possess a real estate license. To assess every parcel in the County takes quite a bit of knowledge and expertise. Now remember - the only way to get rid of Peru Township is if EVERY Township in the County goes away AND the County Board changes the form of government to a commission form. That my friend will never happen. We do have one shot at changing that process... but Madigan refuses to release Gov. Rauner's bill to the house floor for a vote. So, the only way to disband Peru Township will be to depose Michael Madigan.
4:23 I guess all your hope comes down to Magical Mike Madigan. Yes, he may be the one that wants you to pay more for taxes. And the one that submits a 7 billion dollar in the hole budget. And the bond rating is close to junk bonds, which means nothing to you but higher interest payments on the debt that is expanding. Tax assessments can be done on the county level with very little additional work. Big deal about the real estate license, the county is capable. Is there anything else that is so difficult that only the township officials are capable of performing?
11:43 AM, June 10, 2016 - then another law has to change. The one about the assessor needing a real estate license. There are probably about 50 other laws that need to be changed to accomplish what you desire. Don't over simplify it. They had a 4 hour debate on making corn our official vegetable - after it was pointed out that corn is not a vegetable! Changing government is almost impossible.
"Rep. Dwight Kay, R-Glen Carbon, introduced HB 0174, a similar proposal as to how Belleville successfully dissolved its township. The bill would have allowed the East St. Louis Township to be similarly dissolved and its functions absorbed by the city, which governs over the exact same area"
Quote from Illinois Policy on an article about East St Louis and the fact that they need to have fewer layers of government and it is not being allowed.
Anyone talking about salaries now has no clue what the law states...clearly the democrats(hocking, Ozzie, Chief Barnaby (who is padding his retirement) in charge in last term set the salaries for this group, no way to change it
Now is the time for change, if salaries are decreased by 50% across the board and the full time secretary is booted to curb I will support them again this time, no exceptions to removing any full time help and 50% cut or I would say kick it to the curb
Alot of complainers on here, what is peru city council doing more full time people there now then ever...cant wait for spring election cycle
More full time people where (June 12th @ 6:07)? If you mean on the city payroll that's not what they're telling the citizens of Peru. Council is claiming payroll and personnel is way down. I, for one, don't believe that but that's what's being said.
Once and for all people please pay attention. All Townships and Municipalities set salaries in the last year of their elected term in office. That is the law. Plain and simple. It's done that way so elected officials are setting salaries for THE NEXT group of officials. The Peru Township Reformers are right on schedule to reduce Peru Township salaries. The nitwits trying to claim that promises have not been kept are the same people who will be supporting the democrats who will INCREASE Peru Township salaries if they are elected. It's not hard to figure out who wants to reform and who wants to go back to the bad ol' days of Joe Hogan, Joe Ocepinski, and Bob Vickrey. Three of the biggest salary and benefit abusers in the history of township government. All three of whom are currently drawing township pensions.
Please listen. Nothing has been done to lower those salaries of the Township Elected. The reformers are right on schedule? You has 2 years of collecting those wages. Now the talk is that there is a movement to disband the Township. And quickly we are being told that you are right on schedule? We all agree that the new group will get on that gravy train, we listen to those names of the new group and agree that the only reform they will make is the name on the paycheck. That is obvious. Back to your chance and your inability to change the wages of supervisor, clerk, assessor, road commissioner and trustees. That noticeable amount is nearly $200,000. Were waiting.
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YES!!!!!
I don't think it has any legal meaning unless their entire county changes the government structure. This is merely symbolic.
yes please!!!!! i hear the r c owes the peru federal 50 grand and the city 100 grand time to get rid of this waste
This article is misleading to say the least. From what I understand it is not possible to dissolve any township in Illinois unless and until the State Legislature passes laws or amends existing laws that allow it to happen. Currently, from what I understand it would take a change to state law to allow any township to be desolved. I don't think the article is telling the whole story here. There is a lot more to doing a way with a township than a vote by a city council. This is just wishful thinking. Sorry.
Here's the truth of the matter here. This can only happen when the boundaries of the township are "exactly" the same as the city. That is why it was possible in Bellville as the city and township have the same boundaries. Therefore, it cannot happen in Peru to "dissolve" Peru Township because Peru Township's boundaries extend far outside the corporate limits of Peru. There would need to be a change in laws in Springfield to enable anything other than exact boundaries and Madigan will never allow it in any way, shape, or form.
We can only hope that this band of the promisors are thrown out of government. Its was only a few years ago that the reformers were going to lower their salaries and taxes. As we all predicted they are still getting those elected salaries for the 20 minutes of non work each month. The reformers? And soon a few of them will be looking for office as Peru City elections are right around the corner. Let's hope that their experience working on padding their pockets work won't make it close to 4th and Fulton. We can't afford that slippery crew of opportunity paycheck officials.
And to those who believe that the township cannot be abolished are the same ones who retain those taxpayer paychecks. It can be done, it has been done and it should be done. Boundaries are simple, and state law will has outlined how it will be done.
why wasnt my r c comment poster i got a foia on it
12:48 PM, June 06, 2016 - The county must change to a commission form and all townships within the county need to be dissolved. That is the current law.
Nobody cares about the Township. The Zombies that run it are a running joke. If it gets on the ballot you may see a 70% vote to disband. Its a credit to the work of the greed of those in office.
Zombie government. That is our problem.
the purpose of the township government is to create forms to be filed with the county government that nobody will ever read. they also create jobs by taking money from other people and hiring their friends.
That display put on by that group of thugs in Ottawa yesterday was despicable.
To the blogger who posted about the r c owing money: Could you please explain who or what r c is, who you foia'd information from, and what town are you referencing? Thank you for explaining (if you do).
1:47
When this does happen. Will you be the only official to file suit against the voters response to dissolve the Township Republic? Good luck in keeping that gravy train. Get out the office furniture before the voters take over. I would like a shot at the huge truck that is 5 years old and has 40 miles on the odometer.
Saw that in the foia 930
11:52 Your banking on Madigan. I would advise you to find different friends. The Madigan machine is rusting away. Everybody close to Magic Mike seems to be in trouble.
Saw what in what foia and who or what is r c? Explain please!
lol 147
the ottawa "working men" did nothing but prove why unemployment is so high around here. come to think of it, why weren't the "working men" actually working? because their union bosses sold their jobs up the river a long time ago.
those where not "working men." Those where thugs! They should be run out of town on a rail. We don't like their kind around here!
315 road commioansr borrowed 50 grand from peru fed and owes the
city
double thAt
it was a peaceful protest they have rights too
3:20 AM, June 08, 2016 - Some of the people where vulgar, rude, disrespectful and downright thuggish. One man ran toward the governor with a wild look in his eyes. He was lucky not to have been pummeled by the security detail. I've read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights hundreds of times - nowhere does it give anyone the right to protest like that. Another man verbally accosted State Senator Rezin calling her vulgar names. Every one of these thugs needs to have their picture posted so their friends, relatives, parents, and employers know just what kind of person they are.
Why is 28th Street and 30th Street being resurfaced? Neither road needed it. Marquette needs it more than 28th or 30th. I'm sure there are other roads in the 1st ward that need it more than 28th and 30th. Why isn't 10th Street by Washington Park to at least Pike being done? That road is like a washboard. Who is choosing these roads to be done because they aren't doing a very good job.
The township road district should be dissolved. There is absolutely NO NEED for that road district. Turn all 6 or 7 miles over to Peru. Government waste! Ask the twp supervisor why the twp salaries aren't going down. Time for a new supervisor. Election is next year, so if you truly want to get rid of government waste, start with getting rid of the township supervisor.
7:28
Those peaceful protestors reminded Gov. Rauner how we coalminers mean business. After that display count on nothing for LaSalle county for the next several years. He will let the coalminers run their own world to the ground. When all the jobs leave, he will remind all of the business we threw out!
12:23 Confused. The RC personally borrowed or the township borrowed? Why would the township owe the city? or borrow from PFed. If it's personal, it's none of our business. If it's for the township, yes, it's our business and should be posted on the township web site. township website doesn't even post who rc is. website needs major updating.
9:02 A.M.
The individual said he got the information thru a foia and he could not foia personal information, it has to be about a public body.
that website is a joke another fraud down with the township
the salaries are voted on by the trustees i believe
If this was purely a symbolic gesture for Bellevue, I would like for our City Council in Peru to do the same and send a message to the County Board that Peru is willing to take over the 2 roads that are adjacent to the city and take care of them and thus eliminate the need for a entity called the Peru Twp.
I believe La Salle Twp is entirely within the city of La Salle but I believe that La Salle has a good record of actually helping the indigent in their boundaries with township aid. I wonder what the thoughts are on that twp.
If a referendum were put on the ballot for Peru Twp to be eliminated, it would win overwhelmingly.
I also hear that someone in the Republican Party might be challenging the current Peru Twp. Supervisor at the next election.
Maybe our legislature could be encouraged to allow individual cities make their own decisions as to whether they need to maintain the current twp structure within their own boundaries.
id rather put a referenfum to eliminate than have any kind of election it has shown that both dems, reps, and indys have done nothing to change it
There is no money owed to the city of Peru by Peru Township. Somebody with a grudge is throwing crap in hopes that it might stick. I suspect the rumor-monger wants his job back. Too bad that will never happen.
9:49
Those with the recent fascination with the Republican party are not fooling anyone by running for Twp. office. The new RINOs are making everyone in town snicker at the new strategy. Its wasn't too long ago that a few were elected to office to make a change. We all know the result. No change, same paycheck. Changing colors or mascots won't fool anybody.
I agree that a referendum would favor dissolving the township in a big way. Its a vote of non confidence to those who run the township not the government body. Sorry, sometimes you have to burn down the government unit to save the Republic.
get a foia then 10am
move on 10 am lol i think the fact is the township has changed nothing and people are angry and want rid of it very
simple
If the Republican you mentioned is someone who just switched sides. Whoever that is the Republican Party will be hard pressed to support a RINO (Republican in name only).
People will see right through fake banter and all the promises.
I do believe that the Township needs to dissolved and let the City take over.
Peru Township tax bill is .002 lower that the City of Peru. That's all folks. that's less than 2/10ths of a percent. Are you getting the same service? streets, police, fire, parks, and more? Either Peru City needs to raise your taxes or Peru Township need to close.
The Township Road District is its own government body - independent of the actual township. It shares some of the same administrative employees and the Township Clerk also acts as the Road District Clerk. The Township Road District is run by the Township Highway Commissioner.
If you look at the tax bill you just received in the mail, you will see a separate line item for the Township Road District.
The Township Road District is supposed to give a portion of its road tax to help maintain city streets. You will see this as a line item in the City of Peru budget. It is called "Road and Bridge Tax." For FY 17 they are budgeting $152,500. Again - this comes from the Township Road District. The remainder of the Township Road District levee is spent on the other roads - most notably in the vicinity of the small development west of Oglesby. I don't think they take care of the side streets in that development - only the main roads that run around that area.
If the Township Road District is disbanded - which could happen if the City of Peru took control of the remaining few miles of Shooting Park Road west of Sycamore Lakes and the few blocks of Pulaski Street - the other roads would be automatically transferred to the County. They don't want them and would raise taxes to compensate for maintaining them. Peru would also lose out on the $150K or so per year that they get from the Township Road District.
I don't know how the administrative costs of the Township Road District compare - but to the City of Peru, this is "free money" that they would need to make up. I think in the long run - taxes would increase if the Township Road District is disbanded.
Be careful what you ask for.
12:46
Your imagination is much of wishful thinking. I wouldn't be surprised if the City of Peru begins the process of getting rid of the township.
2:22 PM, June 08, 2016 - everything I stated is fact that can be verified. Please do your own research.
Dissolve it already
I strongly believe that there is way too much administrative salary in the township. Board trustees for what??? 10 people deciding what? How to shovel a sidewalk and 4 miles of road? Hell, it could probably be outsourced to a guy with a pickup and snow blade. The road maintenance could very easily be picked up by the city or the county. It is my understanding that the local roadways are already covered and maintained by the city. One of the reasons this country has failed us by having so many levels of management. Just look at City Hall. An assistant, for an assistant, for an assistant. Why not just hire 1 qualified individual? Now, I have seen that an ex city employee was hired by the township for the purpose of mowing grass? How much grass is there at that building? If this is true, these are examples of exactly why the few things done by the township could be transferred to county or city. I support removing the townships. One less level of high salaries and outrageous double dipped insurance and pension is a total waste. Just look at those working in the townships. Already have full time jobs elsewhere. These jobs are nothing more than bigger retirement checks and they know it.
6:57
The facts are that the majority of the taxes go toward the elected officials on the Township Board. Is that right? What public official makes $28,000 a year for 20 minutes of work once a month-----the township clerk. What public official makes $45,000 a year administrating very little public aid? What public official makes another $45,000 a year for supervision of a few miles of road work?
These are all jobs that have no actual skills. All political party appointments used as rewards for their services in helping others win elections. The good ole boy network. The funny part of this story is that they run within a party designation that has no party platform. They run in party name only. Talk about a broken system. This one is one for the ages. Have you ever gone to the township for aid? Would you be better off if they were democrat or republican? The answer is none of the above. There is very little aid given. Are you better off having a Republican or Democrat plow your road? That is one example of the ill advise Township structure. Save yourself embarrassment from your reasons to keep this taxpayer scam going any further. If you are part of the group help yourself by getting a lifejacket and get on board with elimination of the township. Don't be surprised if a few of your township buddies follow the course to save their own political life's.
Quick change the topic. We want to move the township officials in to City of Peru government. That's the solution.
10:56 AM, Your skirt is showing and your vendetta against the people who outsmarted you once is obvious. The funniest part of your rambling is that they are about to outsmart you yet again. The majority of current elected officials at Peru Township would not be disappointed if Peru Township were dissolved. I know this because I know most of them and I helped them get elected. However, since it is highly unlikely that Peru Township will ever be dissolved it makes better sense to get a clue and elect township officials who will continue to reduce the size of Peru Township and the cost to run it. The reformers that were elected in 2013 have made many cuts in waste and operational costs and they will be voting to cut the salaries of elected officials before summer is out. If you were smart enough to read the Peru Township meeting minutes you might actually learn the facts about the character of the people you are lying about. The truth about you is you are envious of the people you rant about because they succeeded in running you or your friends out of office in 2013 and you're still sore about it. They are smarter than you and your crew of misfits and they have already outsmarted you before the next township election has even happened.
10:56 AM, June 09, 2016 - the Road and Bridge Tax only pays for the Township Road District employees... the Commissioner and one or two others, I think they are part time.
You are mixing up the government entities again.
I am in full support of disbanding the township and the township road district. But.... the devil is in the details. The "work" they do is still required and will be transferred to another government entity to take care of. And they will raise their tax to pay for it. Most significantly would be the road district. The City of Peru would absorb a mile or two which is no big deal from a maintenance point of view. But they would loose their portion of the Township Road Tax which is used for city streets. That is a $150K per year loss to the City of Peru and they will need to make that up.
Then there is the tax assessor. When we disband the township, the County Treasurer will need to hire somebody to keep the assessments up to date - right now this data is fed to him via the Township Assessors Office. So, they will need to hire some people to keep this up to date. For a County the size of LaSalle County, I bet it would take six or seven people to do the work. Six to Seven professionals with real estate licenses. They would probably be unionized and have a pension with full medical and dental.
You gotta look at everything.....
No offense 1056. If they wanted it disbanded they wouldnt be happily taking the cash lol
1056. You are weird lol
1056. I highly doubt your ignorsnt powerful influence reslly helped.
12:48 We have been hearing about these wage decreases since the last election and nothing has been done. The truth of the matter isn't the trustee wages its the wages of the supervisor, road commissioner, clerk, tax assessor. And the benefits. You had the ability to change and have done nothing. Yes, you did a number on me and others! You won. The problem is that now you have to pay the piper for promises not kept. No matter what you say and when you say it, nobody will respond to keep the money tree growing. Its over and many of us will get the last dance.
1:58 Why would anybody care about road money going to the city. That point is not worth the taxing power. And eliminate the road commissioner? Its easy. The tax assessor? I bet the county has the software to take all the files and keep them updated. I doubt you need any additional jobs or union help. And real estate licenses? Be serious. Worry about those wages and benefits. The township has medical insurance, pensions. Why would they need a union, they vote on their own wages and benefits.
The proof it that those positions do get those outlandish wages and benefits. And they still hire part-time workers to cut grass, plow roads. Can you believe they still need to survive on your tax bill?
3:46 PM, June 09, 2016 - I guess you really don't know what goes into tax assessment. To be the township assessor, you are required to possess a real estate license. To assess every parcel in the County takes quite a bit of knowledge and expertise. Now remember - the only way to get rid of Peru Township is if EVERY Township in the County goes away AND the County Board changes the form of government to a commission form. That my friend will never happen. We do have one shot at changing that process... but Madigan refuses to release Gov. Rauner's bill to the house floor for a vote. So, the only way to disband Peru Township will be to depose Michael Madigan.
amen 346
4:23 I guess all your hope comes down to Magical Mike Madigan. Yes, he may be the one that wants you to pay more for taxes. And the one that submits a 7 billion dollar in the hole budget. And the bond rating is close to junk bonds, which means nothing to you but higher interest payments on the debt that is expanding. Tax assessments can be done on the county level with very little additional work. Big deal about the real estate license, the county is capable. Is there anything else that is so difficult that only the township officials are capable of performing?
11:43 AM, June 10, 2016 - then another law has to change. The one about the assessor needing a real estate license. There are probably about 50 other laws that need to be changed to accomplish what you desire. Don't over simplify it. They had a 4 hour debate on making corn our official vegetable - after it was pointed out that corn is not a vegetable! Changing government is almost impossible.
"Rep. Dwight Kay, R-Glen Carbon, introduced HB 0174, a similar proposal as to how Belleville successfully dissolved its township. The bill would have allowed the East St. Louis Township to be similarly dissolved and its functions absorbed by the city, which governs over the exact same area"
Quote from Illinois Policy on an article about East St Louis and the fact that they need to have fewer layers of government and it is not being allowed.
Anyone talking about salaries now has no clue what the law states...clearly the democrats(hocking, Ozzie, Chief Barnaby (who is padding his retirement) in charge in last term set the salaries for this group, no way to change it
Now is the time for change, if salaries are decreased by 50% across the board and the full time secretary is booted to curb I will support them again this time, no exceptions to removing any full time help and 50% cut or I would say kick it to the curb
Alot of complainers on here, what is peru city council doing more full time people there now then ever...cant wait for spring election cycle
omg your still riding the last group. theu could of voted on the salaries by now!
More full time people where (June 12th @ 6:07)? If you mean on the city payroll that's not what they're telling the citizens of Peru. Council is claiming payroll and personnel is way down. I, for one, don't believe that but that's what's being said.
If we started charging tax on retirement income, government could do its job and create more jobs.
Once and for all people please pay attention. All Townships and Municipalities set salaries in the last year of their elected term in office. That is the law. Plain and simple. It's done that way so elected officials are setting salaries for THE NEXT group of officials. The Peru Township Reformers are right on schedule to reduce Peru Township salaries. The nitwits trying to claim that promises have not been kept are the same people who will be supporting the democrats who will INCREASE Peru Township salaries if they are elected. It's not hard to figure out who wants to reform and who wants to go back to the bad ol' days of Joe Hogan, Joe Ocepinski, and Bob Vickrey. Three of the biggest salary and benefit abusers in the history of township government. All three of whom are currently drawing township pensions.
11:05
Please listen. Nothing has been done to lower those salaries of the Township Elected. The reformers are right on schedule? You has 2 years of collecting those wages. Now the talk is that there is a movement to disband the Township. And quickly we are being told that you are right on schedule? We all agree that the new group will get on that gravy train, we listen to those names of the new group and agree that the only reform they will make is the name on the paycheck. That is obvious. Back to your chance and your inability to change the wages of supervisor, clerk, assessor, road commissioner and trustees. That noticeable amount is nearly $200,000. Were waiting.
lol they voted for raises look it up1105
amen 1105
time to consolidate read the paper!!! yes!
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