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Thursday, July 23, 2015

City of Peru Illinois 61354 - Government Agenda, Minutes, Videos, News

City of Peru Illinois 61354 - Government Agenda, Minutes, Videos, News

Task Force munutes

52 comments:

Anonymous said...

I see the fireworks will be officially cancelled at a special rec board meeting next Tuesday.

Anonymous said...

Read the Task Force Minutes dated 7-13. Wonder why alderman Radke decided to show up at this meeting and voice his concerns and opinions. Upon reading previous minutes from these meetings all the aldermen had been personally invited to attend and with the exception of Mr. Sapienza all had refused. Not only had they been invited but they were given a choice of 2 different meetings they could attend. According to the 7/13 minutes the task force had come to a conclusion with regards to their recommendation and were going to vote on presenting it to the council. So why would Mr. Radke show interest at this stage?

Anonymous said...

Because 3:33 the alderman may have not liked what the task force had decided.

Anonymous said...

How would they know what recommendation was going to be made?

Anonymous said...

Oh they knew

Anonymous said...

Subject: Task Force Meetings

The task force is a elite group of individuals led by a outstanding gentleman as Chairman of the Board. The membership of this board were individuals who have never been seen at Peru City Council meeting before, nor seemed to be informed of Peru politics.

Loaded questions asked by the task force of subordinates of the ASM and PSM such as since the management revision whereas the C,PPD and the C,PFD manage multiple areas such as do you find departments running better or worse, also what changes would you make if you were in their position? At what level do you believe the morale is in your department since the change? Truthfully what answer do you expect from a interviewee when their future is dependent upon the answer.

Mayor Harl assembled a high powered group of managers as a task force team and did not interfere in the goals set for them. It appears that the Mayor wanted them to make their own conclusions with thoughts for the future rather than assemble their thoughts of what they seen, read or heard in the past.

Presently I do not recall whether the city council voted upon the formation of the task force team but this should have had very little bearing upon their reluctance to appear for interviews when asked to do so at 2 different meetings. To Alderman Sapeinza's credit has to be given for being the only alderman who appeared and withstood a lengthy interview. The other 7 aldermen for some reason or other did not believe it was their obligation to help the task force team or possibly did not have the confidence in themselves to do so. Why? No matter what the councils membership thoughts may be they have as a majority become nothing more than Monday Morning quarterbacks on the subject and therefore appear to be in the forced position to vote agreeably with the task force assembled for a decision that they would not help to make a better Peru, but to rather selfishly think of themselves.

It is more important than when the going gets tough the self-proclaimed tough get going is that they remember in what direction is the ethical and moral path to follow!

The assembled team has worked hard and well together and as a citizen of Peru I compliment them. Whether I agree or disagree with their decision of Peru's needs of a City Administrator I will accept their decision and hope that they will not only grant a yes or no but will also acknowledge why they made the decision.

Anonymous said...

Very funny that Radtke had to admit there is no real Strategic Planning for the city as a whole. The 10 year plan for water infrastructure mentioned by Radtke is something that is mandated by the EPA and has nothing to do with Community Planning or a vision for the future of the city. Radtke revealed that the aldermen are regularly interfering in the day to day operations as well as personnel issues. Also very funny that Radtke never once referred to any contribtion to the city from Harl. Radtke's testimony reveals a city administration with too many people interfering in the day to day operations and a totally chaotic power structure. My personal knowledge of the situation based on feedback from city employees from every department confirms that Radtke has no clue of the utter chaos that is the reality of Peru government administration. The entire council and every single elected official are in total denial of the chaos that surrounds them. The only recommendation from this Task Force that could improve the city of Peru would be to immediately recommend a switch to Council-Manager form of government and hire a Hot-Shot City Manager to come in and get this house in order. But that of course can't happen because the Task Force was prohibited from that consideration by Harl, Waldorf, Lukosus, and Sapienza. This like so many other things in Peru has been a waste of time and effort.

Anonymous said...

Late arrival...Why wouldn't the city consider a City manager? What the heck is the difference between a administrator and manager? Which official supports manager or administrator? Where is Mayor on this issue?

Anonymous said...

I personally attend the City Administration Task Force Meetings and would have to agree with a member of the CATF that he felt that many of his questions of those interviewed were being circumvented. As a attendant only I have to agree and that this was true no matter who was doing the questioning.
This, no matter where a meeting is located of this nature which is going to have questions which directly relate to ones Command Sergeant Major is going to have the same form of answers because everyone is aware that information is going to flow out of the meeting up and down.
This up and down flow could go as far as a eventual and unfortunate loss of a occupation or a reduction of ones hard earned stripes.
I am sure that all of the CATF members know this but in all honesty I do not know in which other direction they could have gone. I do believe they they were reaching for a general feeling and that they had to plug in the holes not specifically stated which they have done. Therefore I believe their effort has been of utmost benefit and tremendously positive and this idea should be continued at the Mayors discretion.

Anonymous said...

9:08 - Basically, a City Administrator is just the Mayor's employee and subject to political pressure, etc. A City Manager requires a change in the form of government in which the Manager runs the day to day operations - the council and Mayor are not allowed to interfere with daily operations. They also cannot be involved in hiring and firing of employees.

Read more here:
https://www.ilcma.org/

Anonymous said...

8:22 & 11:59 I still think it's also funny that alderman Radke decided to show up at the 7/13 meeting when the task force had already made their decision. He had been invited to speak up at 2 previous meetings and declined the invitation.
His comment about the city being pretty lean, and losing 1 to 2 key people gave us reason to believe that the council and mayor had already learned the results of the task force's recommendation and were not happy with it.
Along the lines of strategic planning let's not forget that former alderman Perez repeatedly brought the subject up and it fell on deaf ears and it seems as though the task force also felt it was an important issue because they asked each person they interviewed about it. Now, alderman Radke seems to have admitted there still is no plan in action.
Thank you 8:22 and 11:59 for your intelligent and informative posts.

Anonymous said...

Can anyone answer this question -What would be the reason for the mayor forming this task force and giving them only 1 option for running a $50 million business? Why wouldn't you have this task force have the power to recommend the form of government that would best benefit the city of Peru and its residents whether that be city manager or administrator or neither?

Anonymous said...

Would a city administrator duplicate what they already have in place?

Anonymous said...

The city administrator would perform the job of the Mayor?

Anonymous said...

10:54 It's because Harl wants a city administrator. Somebody who will take the heat off of him, but crack the whip when needed. He wouldn't allow discussion of a city manager because Harl himself would lose power. It's a slam dunk that the task force is going to recommend a city administrator as the right way to go.

Anonymous said...

Hopefully Harl will be appointed to Mautino's seat before any more damage can be done. Feel sorry for the next Mayor trying to un-do everything he did.

Anonymous said...

Do they have the money for this new position? They already have a police-asm, fire chief psm and Mayor. and many assistants. Do we need alderman and a mayor?

Anonymous said...

It will be interesting to see if the Task Forces recommendation will be presented at Monday's council meeting or will it for some reason be postponed?

Anonymous said...

11:45, Peru always has money to butter the bread. Can't get a pothole filled correctly, but plenty of money to hire friends.

Anonymous said...

To:Lois
From:Rodney Perez

What we need to be thankful for are the educated business professionals we have on this committee because they know success comes from strategic planning. I would imagine their recommendation will be to implement a 5-10 year blue print that consists of a vision, mission statement, goals, and action plan for the entire city so this administration can see the exact needs of the city. That's the time to discuss whether the city needs a manager, administrator, or even a lobbyist which it appears the council may be voting to renew contract for the lobbyist in the near future. I have an e-mail out to Alderman Payton asking specifics about the lobbyist and yet to get a response from him.
I will be sending my thoughts in regards to the administrator and strategic planning to members of the committee.

The mayor and council need to understand the importance of planning our future. With no plan...we have no vision, goals, or real action to move Peru forward.
Throughout my term I worked to implement a process of setting a vision, with goals and action plan consisting of a 5 and 10 year strategic planning process. (Blue print) The city needs to consider hiring a planning consultant who can help Peru pave the way into the future.
Administrators need to talk with the people and ask questions like- where would you like to see Peru in 5-10 years what vision do you have, what do you want to go through the minds of people when they hear Peru?
Three years ago I brought in a professional planner to explain the importance of planning. The council shot down the idea each time.
I will continue to bring it up and so should the public until they actually do it. However, I believe the committee will suggest the same.

Thank you!
Rodney Perez

Anonymous said...

3:05, the outline your presenting can't come from you, the council won't even consider it, you need to get a respected professional to bring your concerns to the council to get them to even consider it .

Anonymous said...

L-p High did a very exhausted strategic plan and spent a great deal of money on the process. It came up with the conclusion it needs a new high school, higher taxes to support the many programs and additional staff to carry out the plan.
I don't know what the term of strategic planning for a city would be. I would imagine that it would involve infrastructure improvement, low tax rates and providing the best in services. Would the mission of any city be different? Let's hire all those planners, strategic planning consultants, city administrators. Forget about the residents who just want services at a reasonable cost. We elected a Mayor, and sorry Rodney Perez you don't want him, but it is his position to provide our city with management for our city. He looks to have a lot going on with the infrastructure, Peru looks to be financially good and services are excellent. Back to the planning. The yellow pages consultant will meet with several groups and come up with you need higher taxes, another new building and a few more positions to take care of those needs that a few focus group members discussed. Forget about your vote, it will be manipulated.

Anonymous said...

Well, the question has been answered. Monday's council meeting agenda is posted and there is no mention of the Task Force recommendation. There is also a committee as a whole meeting agenda that is scheduled to last 1 and 1/2 hours and citizens get 10 minutes of that time to bring up any topic. It appears that the rest of the meeting will be closed session. Surprise, surprise.

Anonymous said...

To: 3:39 and 4:12
From :Rodney Perez
3:39 Do you really think this administration is that hard headed and put ego's before the betterment of the entire city? That would be narcissistic behavior by majority of the council.
They may not have approved my strategic planning ideas while on the council but that's ok because it will eventually come to fruition.

4:12 I see by reading your comments that you're not in tune with city business or the day to day operations.
I would think you're old enough to at some point in life you set a goal.
Let's say something as simple as weight loss.
1.You had a vision of losing weight and pictured yourself to look and feel a certain way.
2. Next- Maybe you met with a dietician and together discussed the reality of what you are visioning. You then...
3. Set Goals short and long term. Your first goal is to lose 10 pounds in the first three weeks which is attainable. After you reach that goal you plan to lose 15 more pounds which along the way you make adjustments to your diet and exercise program that you and your trainer thought would be best for you. This would be your long term plan over the next few months.
To explain this on a simple level this individual had a vision, set goals, and took action while going back periodically evaluating progress and making adjustments that would reach that goal. It's then up to him or her to continually adjust and plan as time goes. If he goes off track then he hit a road block and may go backwards or remain stagnant.
In this scenario the dietician assisted with direction and explained how to plan and set goals. The ball was in the clients court.

Your scenario about LPHS and raising taxes and building buildings is a fault of strategic planning or a facilitator then you're further off base with too much koolaid consumed to see any different.

What you described "Sir" are management and elected board member decisions.
Strategic Planning shows how to plan to reach goals. Your comments are kind of silly for the fact who would set goals to raise taxes. I would say the board and administration had a vision of a new complex, set the goal and took action. I do believe they succeeded.

Lastly, Alderman Payton did respond to my e mail but that's all I got was a response. I asked specific questions I was seeking answers to and he had no answers to any of them except that he supported the lobbyist in Springfield.
Alderman Payton had no reason for his support or was un-able to explain what the lobbyist has done that our elected representatives already do.
I asked for specifics and according to Alderman Payton golfing, attending fundraisers and campaign party's justifies re-newing the contract.

Rodney Perez

Anonymous said...

I hope Alderman Payton listens to Alderman Potthoff when he speaks Monday night about not needing the services of the lobbyist. I hope Alderman Payton uses his own brain to see that the lobbyist is not needed. It would still be a tie with the mayor breaking the tie, but at least Payton would show he isn't just following the mayor. There is no hope for Waldorf, Radtke or Sapienza changing their minds. I'm surprised about Radtke, I thought he was more conservative and smarter than that.

Anonymous said...

It didn't take long for the new guy to show his true colors about being a Harl yes man. I will try and hold judgement until after they vote on this.
I'm not surprised

Anonymous said...

7:03 I would hope that all aldermen listen to one another in their explanations about NEEDING or NOT NEEDING the services of a lobbyist. I feel assured that all aldermen are using their own brain and not yours, nor mine and not each others in deciding the needs of a lobbyist. Also I do not believe that you have to directly tell Alderman Payton or to single him out in what he should do with his vote.
In conclusion Alderman Payton has been elected by a majority of the 2d ward to vote as he himself sees best and this is how he has to judge himself and how others have to judge him which definitely does not restrict him to the role of forcing a tiebreaker to show he just is not following the Mayor. Each alderman, Alderman Dave Potthoff, Alderman Dave Waldorf, Alderman Ferrari, Alderman Lukosis, Alderman Mueller, Alderman Sapienza, Alderman Radke and yes Alderman Tom Payton have a vote in which they will individually use with the very best intention for the soundness decision.
Please, let's not get carried away this vote as all others will remain a simple Aye or Nay.

Anonymous said...

I hope each alderman voting Aye for the lobbyist explains their vote. I want to see hard evidence of what our $24,000 is providing for us. So far I have seen none. How about you, 9:24? The reason Payton is being singled out is because we already know how the others will vote. Payton is the newbie.

Anonymous said...

To:7:03
From Rodney Perez
I am singling out Alderman Payton because for one, he is my alderman along with Radtke. I have known Radtkes stance for four years and he's been consistent with his voting record.
Elected officials forget too soon (usually a month or two after the election) that they represent their constituents each one has the obligation to communication and listen to every constituent. You stated your beliefs that I shouldn't tell my Alderman how to vote on an issue...are you being serious? That is ridiculous!
Constituents constantly call, write, and or meet with their represenitive to ask where, how, what and why are you voting the way you are and I express whether I agree or disagree.
Of course the majority of voters elected him but that does not mean his constituents turn their back and give him or any other official free reign to do as they please without an explanation when asked. It's called Transparency and Democracy.
I asked Alderman Payton specific questions that he should have answers to before he votes.

Rodney Perez

Anonymous said...

To 7:03
From Rodney Perez

It's called Lobbying my elected official to try and prusude him one way or another on a particular issue.

Anonymous said...

Payton's vote is "in the bag" for a vote in favor of wasting money on two lobbyists. "THE TIM & BOB SHOWS" are on the city dole at 25K and 24K respectively. Payton has a continuous debt to pay to Harl for helping him get elected. Payton will make his first installment on that debt when he places his rubber-stamp vote with Harl on Monday to continue sending our lobbyists to golf outings and political fundraisers on our dime. Very predictable but still very disappointing to see the newly elected aldermen is just as "ethically challenged" as the other rubber-stampers.

Anonymous said...

@9;00 Along with the global world comes a trickle down effect which drifts from world economics from bigger to lower. Upon reaching the Midwest and Illinois proper preparations were not made resulting in job losses and a lower paying scale.
Fortunately certain advancements were made by Mayor Harl to promote Peru, Illinois which he has been criticized for. These initial moves are a step forward attempted by very few progressive leaders of a city of 10,000 population to maintain and create a environment which has prepared us for the future.
It seems that comments such as the young never return once moved away, there is nothing here to do, or we need white collar and better paying jobs. It has to be realized that in 2015 these jobs do not come looking for you as they did in the 60's and 70's. and during the effects of being a manufacturing alley for Diamond Star Auto Manufacturing. With the Mitsubishi plants future what is your present forecast for our manufacturing alley.
Mayor Harl has taken the stance that the more you are exposed as showing a want of jobs the more your city has opportunity for economic success. At one time I was in disagreement because I thought we were entering a period of overkill of cost and exposure but after much thought I have to agree with him in this viewpoint especially on July 25, 2016. Now is no time to eliminate any form of exposure for the promotion of Peru that we are getting for the amount of cost or any other reason.

Anonymous said...

To 9:48 AM, LOL! You're funny!

Anonymous said...

To 9:48 AM, LOL! You're funny!

Anonymous said...

9:48, Peru's retail success and the golden goose called sales tax is funded by an ever decreasing population of shoppers. Much of the money being spent in Peru is being done so by retirees. The younger people don't have the money to spend. The great circle of life in Peru is funded by the Social Security Administration. That population segment can do nothing but go down. And there is nobody to replace them. What will it be like at Peru's Bi-Centennial?

Peru Town Forum said...

9:48 AM

Up to a certain point you are correct but keep in mind that Peru is only one small dot on the map with numerous other cities very close to us and some are within walking distance. Anyone contemplating business in Peru would certainly look at our city in all aspects and in depth.

They could not help but also look around to other nearby cities because that is the logical thing to do if nothing more to satisfy curiosity. I think of all the time spent trying to bring in the marijuana growing facility and the city that spent no time and little money received that option.

All communities around us seem to be what is referred to as a community (bringing people together). On all weekends Peru is a pretty lonely place with little traffic because all their tax money is put into things for economic development. People will travel to Ottawa or Princeton for a job and think nothing of the short trip and if we don't watch it they will be spending their money (sales tax revenue) in those places also. Just for your information July tax revenue was flat as was March, other months were good.

When asked about what he has brought to the city in the past 2 years, they really don't seem to have an answer other than a conversation ensued at finance about getting results that are not tangible. He may have had some input into our splash pad but now that we can't tap into outside government the plans for that are in some obscure location.

I get it that funding from government both state and federal are not only on the back burner but may be gone away for a very long time and all cities need to have on staff people who are right here and right in touch with our community. And I don't mean a consulting company.

Anonymous said...

Great point 1:41 well put. The lobbyist is more of mayor harls working man while tax payers flip the bill. If all reports are similar to the one Perez had then it's obvious this lobbyist isn't doing anything for Peru but taking funds and pushing Harls name around Soringfield. I wonder if Rodney or Lois have any other reports to share?

Anonymous said...

How do you think Harl gets lawyers from Chicago contributing to his campaign? They are Timmy's friends.

Anonymous said...

Lobbyist for Peru = Donation Cash Cow for the Harl Campaign Fund.

Anonymous said...

9:48 am - what can we see as proof that the money spent on the lobbyist is paying off? Has there been anything brought to Peru as a direct result of this lobbyist? The splash pad complex was simply a ploy of Quinn's to get thank you votes from our area. Even that didn't work. So now we're adding Vickery to the budget doing the same job as the lobbyist. We don't need the lobbyist!

Anonymous said...

take a look at Vickrey's history. I find it kind of funny that he owns absolutely no property in LaSalle County. It is all in his wife's name. Hmmmmmmmmm.... Bobby V?

Anonymous said...

7:03, that is what is called a good business sense, you and your conspiracy theories are laughable.

Anonymous said...

so, good business sense is to hide your assets?

Anonymous said...

8:04 where is the conspiracy mentioned in 7:03 post? Could you please explain the business sense behind it? If 7:03 doesn't see what you see then explain it instead of thinking they are calling it a conspiracy. After all I do see a question mark at the end of the sentence.

Anonymous said...

Why are these posts still dominated by Perez? Is this the new Perez election forum?

Peru Town Forum said...

10:48 A.M.

It seems pretty simple , he sent a blog with his thoughts into the Peru Town Forum and he signed his name and that automatically makes him a target. Reasonable posts will be posted in reply but keep them honest and on topic.

Anonymous said...

To:10:48
From Perez
Why are these posts dominated by Anon's the answer is simple: some feel if they put their name behind it there would be retaliation of some sort. Others > are just cowards:-)

Anonymous said...

Nice calling people cowards. I am posting anonymous. Are you going to call me a coward or say I am afraid of retaliation? I am neither of those. Last time I checked it is my choice. In other words you are either a victim of the city or you side with the city and are a coward. But put a smiley face on it and that makes it okay right? Unbelievable. This will not get past the censor but it needed to be said.

Anonymous said...

To:1:19
From Perez
Yes sir/ma'am I'm calling those who hide behind anon. When calling out on an individual such as 1:48 did with me cowards. Those who know me, know I don't retaliate or get upset over much of anything. I just call it as I see it. It's a fact that some post anon because they are concerned about retaliation. That's a fact! The rest in my opinion are cowards if they can't put a name behind their allegations etc. I'm not saying they can't express their views because they have that right I'm just saying if someone brings my name up I expect they sign their name as I do.
It's mutual respect is all:-) for those who want to throw my name around in a negative manner and not sign their name they are simply cowards :-))
Have a great day and God bless!!
Rodney Perez

Anonymous said...

So just to clarify, since 90% of the blog is anti-city council and mayor, those people are not cowards right? They can say that whatever they want because they're afraid of retaliation. They are not cowards. Just people who call you out.

Rodney, one of your biggest problems is how you pander to people and grandstand. I was curious how you're going to handle your defeat and that is becoming very obvious. Stop making yourself sound like a martyr, stop self-promoting every time you do a good deed and stop pandering to anonymous people, if anonymous people are the very people you're going to call out. You can't have it both ways.

Anonymous said...

6:34 - It is the job of every citizen to question and scrutinize government at all levels. Government cannot be trusted until the citizen is satisfied with the answers they get.

Anonymous said...

To 6:34
From Rodney

First and foremost thanks for your criticism I just wish it was constructive but guess I can't have it both ways. Lol
i may have lost the election but I was not defeated. If I was defeated I would've walked away from it all the day after election as many have. The difference with me, and I'd also say Sherry Mayszak is we weren't defeated.
I'm not sure who you are because you obviously don't want to put your name to your post but the only ones who use the words pandering and grandstanding are those who had control issues from city hall and of course you don't want anyone knowing you read and comment on here. I guess when someone has passion and enthusiasm for what they do its viewed by the opposing side as pandering and grandstanding.
I will continue doing as I do within the city. I don't need an official title to make a difference and take on projects within the city. It's called Leadership.. Taking charge when those with the title don't. I get just as many calls today as I did as alderman because they're wheels spin when trying to get assistance.
When elected officials approve expenditures and don't bother reading bills or asking questions It's a chance they take. I will continue reviewing disbursements and requesting bills and when I find something I question I expect my aldermen to have answers. I've questioned Alderman Payton on a few disbursements he approved and he forwarded my questions to the clerks office because he must not have had answers to. It's our city administrators who are to be transparent and promote open and honest government. If they won't get the information out to the public than I will... If you call that grandstanding than I'm fine with it.

Thank you :-)
Rodney